• DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    178
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    3 months ago

    If a kid is smart enough to figure this out and make it work for them, they’re gonna be fine…

    • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      78
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      Back when we were doing quadratic equations; I wrote a program on my TI-84 that would ask which parts of the equation you already had, and would fill in the rest for you.

      My teacher liked it so much he bought a transfer cable for those calculators so he could get a copy for himself. Then used to to grade tests.

      • Khanzarate@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        41
        ·
        3 months ago

        I did the same thing. It was allowed in general, with the correct thought, “if you can code it yourself, you know the content”

        I had another “program” that would fail to run but that’s because I wrote notes into it. Doubt that was allowed.

          • piecat@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            18
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            Oh I would have been so pissed. I was programming on my calculator 24/7 instead of my classes.

            I wrote a sudoku “editor”

            I put that in quotes because I had a grid that could be navigated, arrows moved, storing the numbers, had number entry down. And when it was time to implement the solver, I learned the hard way what p vs np is.

          • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            3 months ago

            They did that here too, but students would use a cheat program that made it look like teachers were resetting it, but really the memory was safe

            • SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 months ago

              I don’t remember if they fully closed the loopholes, but there are inputs that programs cannot catch unless you actually replace the OS.

              • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                3 months ago

                My memory is pretty hazy but the cheat application emulated the process that teachers used to do a system reset.

                Iirc, it let you press menu, select reset, confirm, and showed the (fake) confirmation screen.

                Also IIRC, you had to install it from Mirage OS, which I don’t think was an OS (?) but rather an app that everyone had to play games from.

        • thejml@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          I did that but made it return success before it got to the notes. You had to scroll to get to the notes, but it looked innocuous before that.

        • UNY0N@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          Oh god I remember doing that too. Those “programs” were the best. I even mad sure to make the code long, so that even if someone thought to take a look at the code they would have to scroll for a while to find the notes.

      • linearchaos@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        3 months ago

        I could never remember the formula to calculate compound interest.

        But I had no trouble writing a for loop.

          • linearchaos@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            I would just rebuild something in my head like this every time.

            While i < n; k=k+(k*r); i++;

            You’d think I could remember k(1+r)^n but when you posted, it looked as alien as it felt decades ago.

            • VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              3 months ago

              The use of for makes sense.

              k=0; for (i=0; i<n; i++) k=k+f(i); is the same as k=\sum_{i=0}^{n-1} f(i)

              and

              k=1; for (i=0; i<n; i++) k=k*f(i); is the same as k=\prod_{i=0}^{n-1} f(i)

              In our case, f(i)=1+r and k=1; for (i=0; i<n; i++) k*(1+r); is the same as k=\prod_{i=0}^{n-1} (1+r) = (1+r)^n

              All of that just to say that exponentiation is an iteration of multiplication, the same way that multiplication is an iteration of addition

        • BluesF@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          What always annoyed me was having to draw charts by hand. Just let me put the data in a computer for god’s sake, the rest of the working is there… I did actually write a python function for one of my assignments which was fine, but they told me not to do it for the exam.

      • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        I made one to decompose polynomials it was very good because it showed all the steps it was literally just copy what’s on the calc to the page

      • ShunkW@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        So you didn’t get the transfer cable with your calculator? Smells fishy

    • roofuskit@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      As someone who was a kid who would do things like this to avoid putting in the work, no this kid will probably not be fine.