It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians. The anti-Israel propaganda is just being used to drive the Muslim and progressive vote away from Dems. I think it’s turning out to be successful.
It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians.
I don’t want the US government selling weapons to Russia to use against Ukrainians. I’m glad we aren’t.
Putting a question mark at the end of a lie doesn’t make it a question. I’m already voting for Harris, and you will never care because all you want in this world is total unquestioning loving support for Netanyahu and the genocide he’s committing for you.
You can put “but I’m voting for Harris” in tiny font at the end of one of your countless attacks on Democrats, it doesn’t absolve you of the damage you do.
Also I’m starting to worry you’re getting high on your own supply here - you do recall that I don’t actually support Netanyahu and your accusing me of it is just a rhetorical device, right?
Since you keep ignoring that I’m not a trump supporter and keep lying about me, there’s no reason for me to take anything you say at face value either.
edit: Elsewhere in the thread, there’s someone outright denying genocide. You’ve chosen to focus your attention on someone who objects to genocide instead.
Do you believe Putin when he claims Ukraine is committing genocide against Russia in the Donbas region, or are you aware that fascist regimes are liars and routinely accuse their opponents of genocide?
Do you really think the klepto fascist billionaire dictators that rule palestine are not using the same tactics as Putin?
Back when Putin was the head of the KGB, the current president of palestine attended a KGB run university in moscow where he was hand selected by the chief of the soviet active measures program to lead the PLO. His doctorial dissertation was about how he thought jews faked the holocaust in order to build international support for israel.
He literally studied how to fake genocide against your own people at KGB school.
There are 20 Israel stories to every 1 Ukraine story on Lemmy.
Regardless of your opinion on the matter, this platform is being heavily astroturfed, and so are many other “liberal” platforms. It’s actually way worse here than on Reddit.
CTH was kicked out for saying “John Brown was right actually, killing slavers is good” and made an example of, along with thedonald way after it had been abandoned. Full “antifa is as bad as fascists” garbage but it’s what the shareholders want.
And it wasn’t all tankies, there were a lot of LateStageCapitalism refugees that git kicked because LSC was just straight tankie. I got kicked for suggesting that North Korea isn’t good just because the West says it’s bad.
Bruh I literally got banned from .ml twice just for mentioning the fact that Russia shot down a civilian airliner in Ukraine. You are completely delusional if you don’t see that a significant portion of these idiots are up Putin’s ass.
the deceptive practice of presenting an orchestrated marketing or public relations campaign in the guise of unsolicited comments from members of the public.
I am a real person, with an ethical obligation to stand up against genocide. There is no deception, I am a member of the public, and what I am doing is called activism (or slacktivism for the pessimists in the world).
Honest question : do you also stand up for the white people who are victims of white genocide being conducted by zionists in america?
Do you believe former Republican state representative and KKK grand wizard David Duke when he claims White America is being genocided just like the Palestinians?
Or can you only see through fascist bullshit when it’s conservative christian americans spouting the lies?
So, you admit that you are flooding this platform to deliberately present one story as more dominant in the news cycle than others in order to misrepresent its relevancy to current events?
You can argue definitions and semantics all day, but that is what you’re doing - and it’s dishonest at best.
i mean westerners. it’s been very frustrating because it means i have to find out what’s going on by seeking firsthand perspectives because journalistic fervor is guided by what will sell ads. my bet is sometime around october seventh people start tuning out again because the novelty will have worn off. i’d love to be wrong, but every single outrage decays as we mistake novelty for news
It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians. The anti-Israel propaganda is just being used to drive the Muslim and progressive vote away from Dems. I think it’s turning out to be successful.
I don’t want the US government selling weapons to Russia to use against Ukrainians. I’m glad we aren’t.
Not yet, anyway. That’s absolutely Trump’s plan though. You want to help prevent that?
You want to quit calling me a trumper every time I speak out against genocide?
Why can’t they? You accuse everyone you talk to of supporting genocide. Quit playing the victim of the exact same shit you do to everyone here.
Avoiding the question.
Putting a question mark at the end of a lie doesn’t make it a question. I’m already voting for Harris, and you will never care because all you want in this world is total unquestioning loving support for Netanyahu and the genocide he’s committing for you.
You can put “but I’m voting for Harris” in tiny font at the end of one of your countless attacks on Democrats, it doesn’t absolve you of the damage you do.
Also I’m starting to worry you’re getting high on your own supply here - you do recall that I don’t actually support Netanyahu and your accusing me of it is just a rhetorical device, right?
Since you keep ignoring that I’m not a trump supporter and keep lying about me, there’s no reason for me to take anything you say at face value either.
edit: Elsewhere in the thread, there’s someone outright denying genocide. You’ve chosen to focus your attention on someone who objects to genocide instead.
Okay, cool, just checking
Do you believe Putin when he claims Ukraine is committing genocide against Russia in the Donbas region, or are you aware that fascist regimes are liars and routinely accuse their opponents of genocide?
Of course I don’t. It’s why I’m glad that we’re not selling him weapons.
Do you really think the klepto fascist billionaire dictators that rule palestine are not using the same tactics as Putin?
Back when Putin was the head of the KGB, the current president of palestine attended a KGB run university in moscow where he was hand selected by the chief of the soviet active measures program to lead the PLO. His doctorial dissertation was about how he thought jews faked the holocaust in order to build international support for israel.
He literally studied how to fake genocide against your own people at KGB school.
https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Other_Side.html?id=j-maMQEACAAJ
https://fathomjournal.org/soviet-anti-zionism-and-contemporary-left-antisemitism/
We’re not selling Palestine weapons, either. Netanyahu is committing genocide. We should stop selling him weapons.
70% of aid sent to gaza is taken by hamas and used to buy weapons.
Palestinians have been claiming israel has been committing genocide ever since the KGB wrote the PLO charter in moscow in 1967.
As of this date no Israeli has ever been charged with committing genocide in a court of law.
Genocide denial is disgusting and you should stop.
Weren’t you in another thread crying because you were being accused of something you claim not to be true?
You just can’t not hypocrite, can you?
If there was really genocide then why has it never been proven in a court of law?
And other lies you tell yourself.
I’ve never met a Palestinian supporter that isn’t also a Ukrainian supporter.
The entirety of lemmy.ml would like a word.
Ah, see I realized they were either all bad faith actors, bots, or idiots ages ago and don’t federate with them.
There are 20 Israel stories to every 1 Ukraine story on Lemmy.
Regardless of your opinion on the matter, this platform is being heavily astroturfed, and so are many other “liberal” platforms. It’s actually way worse here than on Reddit.
Probably something to do with my country financing the underdog in one of these fights and the war criminals in the other.
Do yourself a favor block grad and ml it cleans up a lot of bad faith arguments.
Because after r/ChapoTraphouse was kicked out from Reddit for inciting violence, the tankies moved to create lemmy.ml.
CTH was kicked out for saying “John Brown was right actually, killing slavers is good” and made an example of, along with thedonald way after it had been abandoned. Full “antifa is as bad as fascists” garbage but it’s what the shareholders want.
And it wasn’t all tankies, there were a lot of LateStageCapitalism refugees that git kicked because LSC was just straight tankie. I got kicked for suggesting that North Korea isn’t good just because the West says it’s bad.
It is Alexander Dugin’s red-brown-green alliance.
Far left tankie red fascists, christian nationalist brownshirt fascists, and islamo-fascists, joined together to destroy ‘liberalism’.
Of course there are, and I probably post 3 of the 20.
Other than the alt-right, you’re not going to find any support for Russia in the West.
Why would we need to raise awareness and keep posting about Ukraine to the same level as Palestine?
Bruh I literally got banned from .ml twice just for mentioning the fact that Russia shot down a civilian airliner in Ukraine. You are completely delusional if you don’t see that a significant portion of these idiots are up Putin’s ass.
Why do you think it’s your job to do so? That’s the literal definition of astroturfing.
You absolute little liar.
I am a real person, with an ethical obligation to stand up against genocide. There is no deception, I am a member of the public, and what I am doing is called activism (or slacktivism for the pessimists in the world).
Honest question : do you also stand up for the white people who are victims of white genocide being conducted by zionists in america?
Do you believe former Republican state representative and KKK grand wizard David Duke when he claims White America is being genocided just like the Palestinians?
Or can you only see through fascist bullshit when it’s conservative christian americans spouting the lies?
So, you admit that you are flooding this platform to deliberately present one story as more dominant in the news cycle than others in order to misrepresent its relevancy to current events?
You can argue definitions and semantics all day, but that is what you’re doing - and it’s dishonest at best.
You are saying posting on aggregate media sites is dishonest?
That is just ridiculous.
we’re also numb to what’s happening in ukraine. people got tired around when it hit the one year mark
By “people” I assume you don’t mean Ukrainians.
i mean westerners. it’s been very frustrating because it means i have to find out what’s going on by seeking firsthand perspectives because journalistic fervor is guided by what will sell ads. my bet is sometime around october seventh people start tuning out again because the novelty will have worn off. i’d love to be wrong, but every single outrage decays as we mistake novelty for news
I haven’t met any in real life as far as I’m aware, but I’ve seen plenty on here.
I think they’re talking about the people on TV talking about it, not the protestors themselves.