• Murvel@lemm.ee
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          But you do since you just guess. I quote known sources, and you pull shit out your ass.

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            Please explain why Putin would endorse the person who says that Ukraine should win the war over the person who won’t say that.

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              I don’t need to explain anything. Again, I’m just citing facts, and you’re guessing. But honestly, how much do you think your armchair analytics are really worth? Or anyone’s for that matter?

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                3 months ago

                I just cited facts too.

                Harris wants Russia out of Ukraine.

                Trump refuses to say what he wants Russia to do.

                Why would Putin sincerely endorse Harris? I think you know the answer is that he wouldn’t.

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                  3 months ago

                  Because you, quote ‘don’t live under a rock’, was that the citation you consider a fact?

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                    Again:

                    Harris says Ukraine should win.

                    Trump will not say who should win.

                    This happened last night. I heard it with my own ears.

                    So, again, why would Putin support the person who wants him to lose the war? Because, again, I think you know the answer.

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                I don’t need to explain anything.

                Don’t be coy; you simply cannot.

                You exist in bad faith, this goes so far beyond debate at this point lmao

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                  3 months ago

                  I just cited a quote. What do you want from me exactly(?) holy fuck…

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                There’s a big difference between citing facts and citing a statement. You likely have no evidence that the statement is a fact, besides taking the ex-kgb leader of an adversarial nations word at face value, which…does sound a little silly when you say it out loud like that, doesn’t it? Keep in mind this nation has definitely messed with our elections in the past too lol.

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                  The statement is the fact, and I put no more value to it than that. Make of that what you will, I really don’t care

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                    You are citing a statement, and it is a fact that the statement was said, but the content of that statement is not a fact because there’s very little evidence to support it being a fact. Lies exist, especially from the election meddling, ex KGB foreign adversary national leader types.

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        Here’s a guy who believes things that come out of Putin’s mouth, over his own eyes and his own government.

        Remind me, which side just got busted for being literally paid by Russia to post pro-russian propaganda about the election and Ukraine? Wasn’t that conservatives? If Putin wants Kamala, why is Russia paying American conservative influencers millions of dollars to sway voters away from her?

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          Lmao I don’t really give a damn. I just quoted Putins’ own words, make that what you will and the fact is he supports Harris apparently.

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            I know you quoted Putin’s own words, that was my whole point lol. He said those words in response to the US GOVERNMENT saying that he is paying conservative influencers to influence the US election.

            So, which source do you believe, Putin, or the US government? Go on

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            If you’re just going to quote people and accept it as fact, I have the metal scrapping rights for the Eiffel tower for sale and I’m willing to do so for cheap.

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                  No, ffs, I was just citing official sources, that’s the goddamn opposite

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                    Well, officially, Putin supports Harris, but who knows with that deranged man.

                    So first of all, that is “armchair conjecture”.

                    Second of all, you’ve already admitted just because Putin says it doesn’t mean it’s true.

                    Third of all, what is your reaction to Putin’s support? Sounds like “be careful of Harris, Putin supports her.” Do you think Putin is an idiot? He knows that’s how people will react.

                    Not supporting someone just because Putin said to is just as stupid as supporting someone just because Putin said to. Either way you’re letting Putin make your decisions instead of thinking for yourself.

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        Nobody “knows” it, but it’s totally within character for both of them.

        Trump is so predictable he reliably fell for Harris’ obvious bait about his rally attendees etc.

        It’s not farfetched to assume Putin, who is actually quite skilled in the art of manipulating people, would attempt to use Trump as a pawn in this manner.

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          Yeah well see therein lies the problem. There is a difference between knowing and not knowing, something that seems to matter next to nothing to people anymore

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            Let’s say a guy says he likes puppies, but then pays a pile of cash so some people will run a puppy-kicking machine. Would you say he likes puppies or not?