• hypnicjerk@lemmy.world
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        did you know that there’s a button on each comment which is purpose built for you to express this exact sentiment? i’ve provided a helpful diagram:

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          Engaging with other people on this small platform makes it feel less empty. There aren’t many people here, so I go out of my way to talk to people instead of just interacting with the number beside their comment or post.

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            “there’s not much meat in this stew so i added sawdust” really isn’t the slam dunk solution that you think it is.

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              Your username is fitting.

              Believe it or not, some people like making casual conversation with other people, even if it’s just idle agreement.

              Hope you have a nice day.

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          You know if you don’t think a comment adds to the discussion there’s a purpose built button for you to express that exact sentiment? It’s right below the one you pointed out in your very helpful diagram.

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            you’re adorable, but i think we can all agree that making an effort to help other users contribute positively to the platform is itself a positive contribution.

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              I really hope you’re not suggesting that you honestly think someone didn’t know about the upvote button? What a silly thing to imply that your sarcastic comment was supposed to be in some way actually helpful to someone.

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                i like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

                i understand that you don’t appreciate my tone but i’m afraid i won’t be able to kneecap my natural charm in order to be less intimidating to you.

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                  It’s not that I don’t like your tone, I’m always down for a sarcastic quip. What I don’t like is dishonest people. You must think we’re all incredibly stupid if you expect anyone to believe your intent was to help by pointing out the upvote button.

                  I do admire your confidence, however misplaced, and your commitment to embodying your username though.

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          Ok this got a chuckle out of me. But yeah, I don’t see any problem with people expressing agreement verbally.

          Imagine a real conversation where you’re only allowed to agree with someone with nods, never saying “yeah I agree completely” or any other verbal feedback.

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            Imagine a real conversation

            i am, and it’s nothing like a comment thread on pseudo-social media.

            imagine a comedy duo where one member makes quips and the other chimes in periodically with ‘i couldn’t agree more’ and ‘i came here to say this!’

            penn and teller work well as an act because teller keeps his mouth shut.

            i guess it makes sense from the perspective that lemmy is a community largely by and for former redditors. activity that’s effectively indistinguishable from bots must make this place feel like home to some of us.

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              Lemmy doesn’t need users to police comments. If they’re against the rules, report. Otherwise, every comment is welcome here, and the little arrows don’t even really do anything. That’s what’s so nice about this place.

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                Otherwise, every comment is welcome here

                unless it’s not very nice, then we need to give them a scolding. thank goodness officer superkret is on the job to put those rapscallions in their place.

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          Up and down votes are not a “agree / disagree” button. They are for dis/encouraging posts. You can upvote a post you disagree with but can see that it is useful for the discussion.

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            I’m pretty sure that ship has sailed, especially on Lemmy. I feel like votes as agreement instead of acknowledging constructiveness is more prevalent here than on Reddit, especially for anything vaguely political (or AI, Musk, etc). I’ve seen very constructive comments complete with citations and everything get heavily downvoted because they go against whatever the popular position is, while a low-effort comment next to it gets heavily upvoted because it agrees with the popular opinion.

            It’s really frustrating, and I wish we had a platform that properly rewarded constructive discussion instead of popular discussion. Yet here we are.

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            you have a good point. after all i’m clearly in the right despite the votes suggesting otherwise.

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    It’s impressive how many Ls one man can take while still getting media coverage

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      The man’s a consummate bullshit artist, but I can’t deny he used to be one of the best. Populous, Theme Park, Dungeon Keeper, Fable…

      The last 10-15 years have been a bit of a write-off, but before that, even when he was shitting out games, they were still better than most people could even dream of making.

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    Man I thought he got better after he admitted that NFTs were a mistake, he can’t help himself.

    What a shame, I was ready to forgive the dude and play Masters of Albion, I loved black & white and there aren’t any clones of it.

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      There’s a source port of Black and White that is in early development. Just had it’s first alpha release.

      So there might be a modern way to play it in a year or two. Hopefully modding too!

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      I know the streamer Okoii has been doing streams of B&W2 recently and he had some instructions in the first one about how to get it running.

      Not sure if that helps. Not sure if you wanted to play the game or play something like it.

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    When an AI is able to take and write every single line of code, generate all the art, and debug it just by having someone as code dumb as a CEO type in a prompt, I’ll believe his words and eat my shirt.

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      The thing is even if AI could do all that (which is doubtful in my life time), you would still need someone to prompt it with something interesting. And CEO types have never had an interesting idea in their lives

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        Fair enough. Though knowing them they’d just find something extremely popular like pokemon or the latest CoD and have the AI make games like those.

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    There is a possibility something like this will be possible in the future, but it’s not going to be an achievement of AI, it’s largely going to be the achievement of regular developers creating a general-purpose game engine that can be used to put together a game block by block, which can be utilized by both human game designers and AI. (Likely to better effect by the former.) I can imagine Entity Component Systems will play a big part of that.

    One of the biggest blockers for AI making games is going to be testing it to select for better performance. With text it’s relatively easy to see if some text an AI produced is plausible. Images are also plentiful, but that’s a lot more subjective. With both of these it would also not take a massive amount of time to add a human element. It’s quick to check if a paragraph or image looks like it is a good response to the input promt. A game, however? How long do you need to play it to see if it’s fun? At best, perhaps, you can write an AI to control a bot character to see if it’s technically playable.

    I don’t want to even think about the electricity that wlll be wasted training such models.

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      ECS has really nothing to do with this. ECS is just a specific way to store the internal state of a program, fundamentally no different from other data structures.

      Also, a good game is far more than just text and images and current “AI” can’t even generate those individually. A game needs significant thought put into things like game loops, story arcs, balancing,… that are non-obvious when existing games would just be training data. Not to mention that using an existing game as training data is both non-trivial and also we just don’t have the vast amounts of them that current systems seem to need to produce anything even half-way decent.

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        ECS already makes it a hundred times easier for me to conceptualize game mechanics, modify and extend them. Giving AI the ability the ability to create data separate from systems that use them will make it much easier for it to build a game. I don’t believe for a second it will be able to write functioning object-oriented game code for example. It will likely be best if it avoided coding via a text-based language altogether, and use visual scripting or another system based on chaining logic blocks together. But that still counts as the “system” part of ECS.

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          Visual programming has been tried and tried again and failed every single time. Mostly that is because graphics are just not very good at abstraction and programming is all about abstraction.

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    Capitalists don’t know shit about what the working class wants. These video game folks continue to prove this true.

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    25 years might actually be a potentially realistic timeframe for that. But I’d still bet on a little longer myself. I hope it happens within my lifetime.