• yesman@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I read the abstract, and the connection to your title is a mystery. Are you using “grock” as in “transcendental understanding” or as Musk’s branded AI?

    • Hackworth@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 months ago

      No c, just grok, originally from Stranger in a Strange Land. But a more technical definition is provided and expanded upon in the paper. Mystery easily dispelled!

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        2 months ago

        In that case I refer you to u/catloaf 's post. A machine cannot grock, not at any speed.

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        2 months ago

        Thanks for clarifying, now please refer to the poster’s original statement:

        AI doesn’t grok anything. It doesn’t have any capability of understanding at all. It’s a Markov chain on steroids.

        • Hackworth@lemmy.worldOP
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          2 months ago

          We follow the classic experimental paradigm reported in Power et al. (2022) for analyzing “grokking”, a poorly understood phenomenon in which validation accuracy dramatically improves long after the train loss saturates. Unlike the previous templates, this one is more amenable to open-ended empirical analysis (e.g. what conditions grokking occurs) rather than just trying to improve performance metrics

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            2 months ago

            Oh okay so they’re just redefining words that are already well-defined so they can make fancy claims.

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              2 months ago

              Well-defined for casual use is very different than well-defined for scholarly research. It’s standard practice to take colloquial vocab and more narrowly define it for use within a scientific discipline. Sometimes different disciplines will narrowly define the same word two different ways, which makes interdisciplinary communication pretty funny.