• Notyou@sopuli.xyz
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    3 months ago

    The issue is that tax payers are already paying for it. It cost money for cops to go out and arrest people, then process them. The homeless person ain’t going to show up to court later, and the tax payer usually eats the cost of all that plus any anti homeless benches or windows.

    I think if that the cost gets directed toward housing and food, so they have a stable place to grow from, it would be a better option in the long run.

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          Step 1) defund police to provide free house and food to socially unfit people
          Step 2) socially unfit people trash the place because that’s what junkies do.
          Step 3) omg what is the police doing
          Step 4) it’s defunded.
          Step 5) who could have seen it coming?

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            And your solution is, let me guess:

            Step 1) make up a situation to be mad at.
            Step 2) get mad at it.
            Step 3) ???
            Step 4) allow police to hunt homeless people for sport.

            Now, to be serious, step 2 in your example is a lie fed to you by the police state in order to manufacture fear of homeless people and justify its own existence. Therefore the rest of your post is bullshit as well. And when your neighbor has a mental health crisis, you should call social services and doctors, not the police. The fact that your first instinct is to punish and incarcerate mentally unwell people instead of helping them to get better says a lot about your current mindset actually.

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              step 2 in your example is a lie fed to you by the police state

              Lmao dude you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about

              Stop daydreaming about your perfect world where everyone is happy fun land all the time nice and fun and butterflies.

              There’s a social program in my city where you agree to host homeless people for some time and the city pays half the rent + they waive some property taxes

              I didn’t do it because I’m not an idiot, every single one of my friends stopped doing it after their first time.

              You only get half the rent because whoever you’re hosting doesn’t actually have to pay the other half, and the other benefits you get don’t get remotely close to covering rehabilitation of the apt when the contract runs out you’re finally able to rent to normal folks.

              One of my buddies had shit on the ceiling. Like actual human feces, smears all over the ceiling.

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                3 months ago

                Ah, so you’re a landlord, that’s why you’re so evil. Your whole argument here is basically “I can’t exploit them for maximum profit while doing basically nothing so they all are subhumans who don’t deserve help”. That’s vile, man.

                Also, I’ll take an educated guess and say that you’re in New York. And since it’s America, these homeless people didn’t have access to psychiatric or narcologic help during their stay, and probably didn’t have any relatives/friends/social workers to support them (you and your friends clearly never offered help beyond what’s required for you and them to receive money). And battling mental illness alone, while still stressing about a job and where to love after the contract expires and they’re kicked out because they’re too disabled to look after themselves doesn’t lead to a speedy recovery. Same applies if they’re battling addiction.

                At the same time, yearly police budget of NYC is 5.8 billion dollars. Given that there are around 100 thousand homeless people and NYC median rental rate of ~3100$/month for a studio appartment, NYC could pay for a full studio appartment for each homeless person for the whole year, and it would cost under 2/3 of the police budget. So yeah, it’s not THAT expensive in the grand scheme of things.

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                  Ah, so you’re a landlord, that’s why you’re so evil.

                  Lmao dude go back to tumblr

                  Also, I’ll take an educated guess and say that you’re in New York.

                  Lmao dude get better education, because I live about 6000km from New York

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          3 months ago

          You will, because you’ll need to evict the junkies out of the place they’re trashing.