• Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    This entire article, which I have seen before, strawmans the issue by pretending that a ban on breeding and adoption is supposed to instantly solve fatal dog bite issues, and that short-term data from a failed small-scale direct-enforcement program (throwing the cops at the problem) is some sort of proof that restrictions don’t work.

    The reality is that banning the breeding and adoption of pit bulls would result in a long term reduction in the breed. You can even grandfather existing pit bull owners out of the ban and avoid direct enforcement against people’s pets, because you only need 12-14 years before the majority of pitbulls in the world were born after the ban, and at that point you can just enforce the law when illegal dogs are found.

    If one breed is responsible for 66% of all fatal attacks, and you significantly decrease the number of dogs of that breed, there will be fewer fatal dog attacks. A ban absolutely would work, it just won’t feel good to condemn unwanted pit bulls to euthanasia so that other breeds can be prioritized for adoption.

    And when there is a fatal dog attack by a banned breed, we can hit the owner with murder charges since someone died in the commission of a crime.

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        5 months ago

        How on earth does anything I said logically conclude to “ban humans”?

        It’s like you don’t even take your own position seriously making arguments like this.

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            5 months ago

            I’m curious why you feel so strongly on this situation. Like genuinely, I want to know your side. Your reasoning.

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              if Todd really cared about people, he’d reduce harm in a way that would actually help; persecuting a particular breed of dogs because their owners don’t spay/neuter and train them is asinine.

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                  5 months ago

                  OK, but you can’t train a dog to not attack a person correct?

                  uh, I can’t parse this word salad, it’s double negative pie

                  ???

                  My dogs have never attacked anyone. I have a staffy/pit mix. live in the US. it’s one of the most gentle and kindhearted dogs I’ve ever had; she’s a meat-missile but is more gentle with the kids than my dalmation (passed) or hound dog.

                  Most dogs don’t attack people. The owners should be held accountable for their shitty stewardship of their animal. And anyone who trains animals to fight should be stoned in public, but that’s just my opinion.

                  People, overwhelmingly, kill way more people than pit bulls.

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                    Most dogs don’t attack people but what happens when they do? What would happen if your dog attacked you or someone else at random? Would you feel responsible? You can’t say that it will never happen because you can’t know that and also it’s what everybody says until it does.

                    I’m not sure where you’re going with your last statement but it’s irrelevant. We aren’t talking about people here.

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        5 months ago

        With how unhinged you are and your apparent love of bulldogs I’m guessing we’re going to see a story about you being murdered by one before long.

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          5 months ago

          bulldogs

          whole 'nother breed than what’s being discussed here sparky. so uh, whatever. Thanks for wishing me dead, you have a good fuckin night lol.

          what an asshole…