initial eyewitness reports from Telegram, accompanied by direct video evidence of a plane falling out of the sky with obvious catastrophic damage
there is no room for doubt… that airframe had all of its capabilities aggressively shut down by some external physical process… maybe it was Thor, but no… it wasn’t anything but really capable land based missiles…
Planes do have failures. Particularly those maintained by organizations with well documented failures to maintain anything.
Also, c4 or kamikaze pilot wannabes are things.
And eye witnesses have a tendency to see whatever someone else claimed to have seen.
I find it incredibly unlikely that this was an accident. I would not be overly surprised if this was to fake a death. I assume this was an assassination.
Personally? I would rather we focus on evidence rather than #WeDidItReddit
No shit. It was originally and explicitly stated in the initial reporting that the plane was shot down.
witnesses reported seeing missile trails right away, and hearing 2 loud pops
I’ve not been following closely but is any of this corroborated by the osint community?
Because it is probably true. But witnesses are full of shit and a lot of things look like contrails.
initial eyewitness reports from Telegram, accompanied by direct video evidence of a plane falling out of the sky with obvious catastrophic damage
there is no room for doubt… that airframe had all of its capabilities aggressively shut down by some external physical process… maybe it was Thor, but no… it wasn’t anything but really capable land based missiles…
Planes do have failures. Particularly those maintained by organizations with well documented failures to maintain anything.
Also, c4 or kamikaze pilot wannabes are things.
And eye witnesses have a tendency to see whatever someone else claimed to have seen.
I find it incredibly unlikely that this was an accident. I would not be overly surprised if this was to fake a death. I assume this was an assassination.
Personally? I would rather we focus on evidence rather than #WeDidItReddit
The wing was blown off and the fuselage was still intact. Thus ruling out a bomb.
No, the other dude said it totally could have been a kamikaze pilot!! Lmao
you are all over the place, i don’t even know what you’re trying to say… except that you’re working hard to sow doubt about something obvious…
not even a Russian airframe can fail that spectacularly on its own
I mean you can see the remnants of the missile contrail in that clip that was posted on streamable. 100% shot down.