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      300,000 people in East Timor certainly didn’t deserve Carter supplying Indonesia with the tools to carry out genocide.

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        It’s very easy to forget why Carter was largely considered a middling President in his time.

        Between his fumbling of the Iran Hostage Crisis, his public sector strike breaking, and his Volcker Shock Economics, he set the stage for Reaganism and the end of Progressive Era politics.

        But then he did Habitat for Humanity which was nice. And he talked a good game on climate change. And he called Israel Apartheid as he saw it decades before any other mainstream politician.

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          to be fair, the republicans conspired with the iranians in secret to hold the hostages until after the election in exchange for money which the us used to buy arms for terrorists in central america.

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            The Ayatollah buying scud missiles from Donald Trump Rumsfeld and Oliver North was crazy, when you consider how much the GOP say they hate Iran and love Reagan.

            But Tip O’Neal and Ted Kennedy and a young Senator from Delaware whose name I can’t recall brushed it all under the table. The sentence for these henous crimes landed on North’s shoulders and totaled

            a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours of community service

            But even that was too much.

            with the help of the American Civil Liberties Union, North appealed his conviction to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. On July 20, 1990, the D.C. Circuit vacated North’s convictions on the ground that witnesses in his trial might have been impermissibly affected by his immunized congressional testimony.

            The Aristocrats!

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                They’ve got a very checkered past. Very much a “rights are for whites” organization in a lot of cases.

                Backing Klan and Nazi parades while dropping off the map in the face of the Stonewall Marches, the anti-war movements, and BLM.

                They’ve been near useless when it comes to abortion rights, police brutality, and refugee rights, as far as I’ve seen.

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        Sorry bud, it’s hard to understand what you’re saying with Jinping’s cock all up in your mouth like that

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          Neither of us live in China, and they had nothing to do with the atrocities the US facilitated under Carter (which admittedly, is less than any other recent president), why are you bringing them up?

          He did good things after the presidency, but acknowledging that Israel is an apartheid state fails to make up for excluding Palestine from the Camp David accords.

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            Because that’s where your half-baked talking points are coming from, comrade.

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              Is it really inconceivable that someone could organically not like genocide?

              Any American who acknowledges that every president for the last century has done things we hanged Nazis for at Nuremberg must have been tricked by outside forces?

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                No, that part’s not inconceivable. The inconceivable part is that you claim to not like it while also defending the undisputed kings of it. Mao makes Hitler look like a fucking amateur lol