• venusaur@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Ad hominem. I don’t participate in fear based politics or hate based discussion. Try again.

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      7 months ago

      If you’re not either participating in politics by voting, running for office or campaigning; or actively attempting to overthrow the government, then you are accepting whatever government we have and whatever government gets voted in.

      There’s nothing morally wrong in voting for the less-bad of available. options now, while still working toward changes that give us better choices in the future. If nothing else, if you really cared about how this country and world runs, you would at least be voting for whoever you think will give you even a SLIGHTLY better chance of allowing or enabling the change you want to see.

      The absolute least useful thing you could possibly do is throw up your hands and give up and not participate. As a matter of fact, that’s exactly what extremes on both ends of the political spectrum want you to do. The fewer people who participate, the easier it is for them to get away with all the money and power.

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        7 months ago

        It’s the opposite. They need your participation to keep the machine churning. The more you care about red vs blue the more money they make and the longer the system prospers with little real change. Another 4 years of Trump is what the Democratic Party needs to get off their asses (no pun intended) and actually give us somebody who’s gonna make real changes.

        It’s all business, you’re the consumer and our lives are the currency. If you’re not buying what they’re selling, they’re gonna need to give you what you want.

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          7 months ago

          So close but still framing it as “Blue needs to save us so we need to punish them with Red”, which is still red vs blue thinking

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            7 months ago

            In the future scenario you are referring to Trump being elected is not a punishment but a consequence of an indirect action. You incorrectly assume I’m trying to punish Democrats. I don’t care what they do, they’re just not getting my vote until they’re doing what I want them to do. It’s just business to them and should be treated as such. They don’t truly care about you.

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                6 months ago

                Well then it’s an indirect punishment, but I’m not doing it to directly punish them. You just see it as a punishment.

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          They need your participation to keep the machine churning.

          You are 100% incorrect about this. The system will continue regardless of your participation. Sitting on the sidelines and pouting about the rules being bad does nothing but make you look like a child.

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            6 months ago

            I don’t need to explain to you how change happens, but it’s not only continuing to play their games. Ever heard of a boycott?…