• waka@discuss.tchncs.de
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    7 months ago

    Ukraine alone won’t be the cause for a dystopian scenario with Russia as the world government, but I don’t like where it would be going if Ukraine fell. Russia surely wouldn’t stop afterwards. I’d rather see a world where trade connects people than a world where governments forcefully connect people via ideologies. The latter never worked out for anyone.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      It’s incredible how western propagandists managed to convince people that world’s biggest country with low aging population is on a mission of territorial conquest.

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        7 months ago

        Putin himself likened himself to Peter the Great, speaking of returning and strengthening once-held territories. Unless you agree with his premise that this land was always Russia, despite the current rulers and wishes of the populations living there, territorial expansion is the only conclusion to his statements.

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            7 months ago

            Well, if you have a more accurate source, please share.

            I remember a number of news outlets in various western countries quoting Putin talking about rebuilding the Russian empire, but I didn’t bother to save links because I didn’t think people would glibly deny his stated intentions a couple years later.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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              7 months ago

              Go to the official Russian transcript that’s published maybe? I love how you keep acting like the only source that exists is out of context quotes in western media.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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                  7 months ago

                  You’re the one who brought this up, so why don’t you go look up the whole quote. It’ll be a good experience for you to learn how to actually read information from primary sources. You don’t even have to run it through a translator because Russia publishes official transcripts in english.

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                    7 months ago

                    Cause even then you’ll probably just whine and complain their translator isnt accurate enough or something.

                    They’ve already provided a lot more info than you just saying ‘ackshully’ which carries a credibility of 0, even if their sources were shit (not saying they are or aren’t)

                  • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
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                    7 months ago

                    I made my points and defended them with sources that can be verified or dismissed. You make your points, and lay the onus on others to prove you right or wrong, while dismissing any and all support they may provide. To quote Hitcheson’s Razor, “what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” Or to put it in a more modern way, “put up or shut up.”