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    7 months ago

    “enshittification” is an enshittification of the english language

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      English teacher here. Languages change over time and there’s nothing you can do about it.

      Feel free to speak with old english if thou very regard it matters. :)

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        i know that, im not a child.
        i’m talking about a particularly stupid word, not the evolution of language.
        also, i don’t believe enshittjfication will stand the test of time, you jive turkey.

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          i don’t believe enshittjfication will stand the test of time

          I actually hope you’re right, because I believe it will only linger as long as there’s behavior taking place that it clearly defines.

          you jive turkey.

          I love this. I wish it was my account name.

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              It’s just a wish. It’s a funny term and I like it, but not worth the effort of making a new account and subbing to all the same groups again. I’ve done it thrice already and it’s a pain in the ass. Maybe I’ll use it next time I sign up for something though.

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      Yeah, we’re a society. Things happen outside of grammar and word rules handed down to us from above…

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        lol, no rules… it’s just a stupid word that sounds stupid and makes anyone who uses it look stupid…
        Shakespeare invented tons of words, and they were all great, inventing new words is great. enshittification, in particular, is just lazy and dumb
        p.s. love it when people do dumb shit and then defend the general category of what they’re doing as if that was the problem

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          Why, in objective terms, is it lazy and dumb? Or do you just not like it?

          Plenty of useful and appropriate words are used by people in dumb ways, that does not make the words themselves dumb.

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            7 months ago

            i’ve already talked about it more than i care about it

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              7 months ago

              “I have an irrational dislike of it and can’t defend my opinion with facts.”

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                “i feel personally injured by someone else not liking something that i like, so i will harass and berate them for saying so”

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                  Lol relax. No one is being “harassed” here, we’re discussing on a public forum. No one forced you to post your dumb opinion or triple-down on it. You still think you’re right? That’s totally fine, but you must realize people are not always going to agree with you…

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                    7 months ago

                    chill out man, stop freaking out over your stupid word

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          What you describe as the word’s flaws make it perfect though. The word itself is an icon for the actions it describes

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          Fair enough but what word do you use instead of enshittification? It filled a gap in the language.

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            depends on the context:
            “exploitation”
            “make it shitty”
            ruined
            “fucked it up”
            if it was used way less, in non-pseudo-intellectual contexts, i wouldn’t care…
            there is a term for companies buying companies and lowering the quality of the product while capitalizing on the brand reputation… i forget it though…

            i mean, i barely care but people keep commenting on this so i feel like replying.

            parentification is another one like that. just verbifying the noun and sticking “ification” on the end to have more syllables.

            you could just write out, “children being forced into parenting roles” or something…
            In large families, the eldest child has traditionally taken on more parent-like responsibilities… it’s not new and if it really needs it’s own word, it deserves a more thought out word structure than just:
            “+ification and now let’s try to spread the word and get people to take me seriously!”

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              Before I reply I just wanna say I’m not trying to fight or argue I’m just quite interested in language.

              All your context-dependent examples are verbs, whereas “enshitification” is a noun - a state of being. That’s why it fills a gap in English.

              Otherwise you need an entire sentence to describe that process A happened to B thing and the result is C state.

              It doesn’t seem intellectual at all to me, I mean it has the word shit in it and its closest contender for meaning is probably “fuckedupness”.

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          It’s main problem is that people overuse it massively and act like they’re saying something really clever by using it

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            🛎️ 🔔 🔔
            yep. it’s like pseudo-intellectuals got too lazy to learn big words and use them incorrectly, so they just added syllables to “shitty”