• JasSmith@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I’m not sure what people want, exactly. 20 years of occupation wasn’t enough to change their culture even a little bit. Do they want permanent American occupation? That’s clearly untenable for many reasons. I don’t want America to be the world police, and I don’t want them invading countries on moral grounds.

    Any aid given to Afghanistan immediately ends up in the hands of the Taliban now.

    • NathanielThomas@lemmy.world
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      I’m not sure what people want, exactly. 20 years of occupation wasn’t enough to change their culture even a little bit.

      And yet the linked story above tells you about people whose lived were changed for the better during the fall of the Taliban. What you’re trying to say is that not enough people were willing to fight to oppose the Taliban to continue living this way of life. Maybe they don’t want to be murdered. Maybe there’s not a strong enough resistance force to oppose them but it doesn’t mean there isn’t opposition to the Taliban.

      It’s like saying when Franco conquered Spain in 1936 that everyone wanted fascism.

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        1 year ago

        No, the Spanish Republicans definitely put up a real fight. If the Afghan Army had the same mettle as the Republican Army of Spain, then the Taliban would have been kicked back to Pakistan because of massive materiel superiority.

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          100% . The dude you responded to is just wrong. Franco started the Civil War in 1936, but it went until 1939. He had a lot of the army plus the backing of the Nazis. The Spanish Republicans had… Picasso and Ernest Hemingway.

          The painting “Guernica” is about Nazis bombing a small town. If you have to kill a horse and some children with a bomber, you aren’t going to be winning any time soon.