• simplecyphers@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Bro, you went so far that you actually became racist yourself. You literally said: “Do help themselves” == “white” “Don’t help themselves” == “not white”

    You are pushing the american stereotype for “lazy immigrants”

    Thats kinda cringe tbh.

      • simplecyphers@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Nah. Thats not racist. Stating that countries primarily populated by non-whites are somehow too weak or lazy to fight for themselves, however, is definitely pretty racist.

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          1 year ago

          This particular country that we’re actually discussing was indeed too lazy to fight for itself and gave up within 2 weeks after decades of being occupied.

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          1 year ago

          Where did you see that? They were pointing out that the person they responded to made the very implication you’re accusing them of making.

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            1 year ago

            That user who suggested we ‘help’ is either malicious or ignorant. Because help doesn’t mean we release the reserves of money we’ve stolen from the Afghans. It means invade them again, whether she means it or not.

            The best thing we can do now is let the Afghans be sovereign and no longer interfere (which won’t happen). You can expect nothing good socially from there, as the Americans helped the Taliban defeat local progressive and secular forces in the 70s. All we can hope for is for them to eventually stand up on their own two feet.

            Anyone who whines about the plight of Afghan women is either doing propaganda or is misled. Afghan women have children too btw - children that are starving - have Biden release the reserves.

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              This is a much more nuanced approach that I can work with. I don’t think that there’s nothing we can do, but I can at least understand that perspective. We’ve done a shit ton of damage to the region over the last 50 years, and if the people had access to self determination, I’m sure that they’d prefer no US government intervention after the last 20 years. The new “insurgency” that was born out of more progressive elements of the old government have a chance to bring some positive peace if they win. The problem I had was the implication from others that the Afghan people are helpless and therefore not worth supporting.

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                1 year ago

                That’s cool. My peice had to said, because the rightwing types were benefitting from the silence or disagreement of people like myself who want no more intervention.