• tal@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    7 months ago

    Between this and the Moscow theater hostage crisis…and I guess the Bataclan attacks in France…people seem to target theaters in other countries.

    But the US seems much more concerned about sporting events being targeted in the US. I don’t hear about security restrictions on theaters.

    I guess a sporting event can have a lot more people, and if televised might be higher visibility. But I’d think that any vulnerability would persist across national boundaries.

    • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      Terrorists are always going to attack whatever has the most convenient combination of lax security and number of people for them. They don’t go for cultural venues because they loath theater, they go for them because there’s less things that go wrong for them.

      The best governments can do is to have more security in places with more people - like sports events.

      • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        Well, they could actually govern for the people and leave no sane person any reason to do bad things…

        … but then since when has government been in the business of improving the commoner’s life?

        • plistig@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          13
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          7 months ago

          Yeah, the average terrorist is extremely rational, and would never do attacks if their needs were met. Simple needs like killing everyone who does not worship their god exactly the same way they do.

          Consume less tiktok. Can’t you see that it rots your brain?

          • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            8
            ·
            edit-2
            7 months ago

            Someone’s social status is orthogonal to the pressures that drive people to be hopeless about society. In fact, poor people tend to have better community, which directly helps people not turn to terrible decisions.

            It should be no surprise what so ever. It takes both a lack of support and a lack of availability. It’s only natural that people who have the least emotional reason to stay sane are the ones more likely to snap.

    • apis@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      7 months ago

      Outside of the US, soccer fixtures are the biggest sporting events (certainly in Europe & Russia).

      Due to a long history of violent football hooliganism, there is already elevated security around these events & international intelligence coordination preceding them.

      Additionally, it is usually very difficult to obtain tickets unless you have connections to a club.

      These factors would make them trickier targets than lesser sporting events or concerts.

      Differences in transport access to sporting stadia & theatres in different countries may also play a role. Terrorists naturally take logistics into account.

      And maybe the US just picks up more chatter about sporting events & not much about theatres?

      But yeah, broadly either type of target is possible anywhere.

    • HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      Wasn’t it a yearnor two agobthat a guy shot dozens of people attending a concert in Vegas with a sniper rifle?

  • hydroptic@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    So, are the terrorists one or more of these:

    • islamic terrorists from one of the Caucasus “republics”
    • disgruntled vets
    • separatists
    • FSB agents

    I’d figure it’s some IS offshoot, although regardless of who actually did it the FSB will likely blame it on the Chechens as is tradition. Especially if they did it themselves

        • SevenOfWine@startrek.website
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          except these Nazis are also somehow Jewish, apparently

          The guardian did an interesting piece on that:

          The form of Russian fascism Dugin and Prokhanov defended is like the central versions of European fascism – explicitly antisemitic. As Snyder writes, “… if Prokhanov had a core belief, it was the endless struggle of the empty and abstract sea-people against the hearty and righteous land-people. Like Adolf Hitler, Prokhanov blamed world Jewry for inventing the ideas that enslaved his homeland. He also blamed them for the Holocaust.” … . … By claiming that the aim of the invasion is to “denazify” Ukraine, Putin appeals to the myths of contemporary eastern European antisemitism – that a global cabal of Jews were (and are) the real agents of violence against Russian Christians and the real victims of the Nazis were not the Jews, but rather this group. Russian Christians are targets of a conspiracy by a global elite, who, using the vocabulary of liberal democracy and human rights, attack the Christian faith and the Russian nation. Putin’s propaganda is not aimed at an obviously skeptical west, but rather appeals domestically to this strain of Christian nationalism.

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin-ukraine-attack-antisemitism-denazify

    • ÞlubbaÐubba@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      7 months ago

      ISIS has claimed credit for the attack, then again they’ll take credit for anything if it’s big enough.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    7 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Several gunmen in combat fatigues burst into a big concert hall in Moscow on Friday and fired automatic weapons at the crowd, killing and injuring an unspecified number of people, Russian media said.Russian news reports said that the assailants also used explosives, causing a massive blaze at the Crocus City Hall on the western edge of Moscow.

    Video posted on social media showed huge plumes of black smoke rising over the building.Russia’s state RIA Novosti news agency reported that at least three people in combat fatigues fired weapons.

    The state Tass news agency also reported the shooting.Russian media reports said that riot police units were sent to the area as people were being evacuated

    .

    More details soon …


    The original article contains 119 words, the summary contains 119 words. Saved 0%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!