• Grunt4019@lemm.ee
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    Most people I think see through this, they’re just trying to bring in some bag holders to inflate the share price while they cash out.

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      Yeah I don’t think mods and “power users” that stayed after last year are necessarily against reddit succeeding, just not willing to buy in at a 6.5bil valuation for a company that can’t turn a profit and lost 90+ mil last year and 700+ cumulative. The CEO got 193 mil last year it’s clear where their priorities are. And after the bad will they gained last year burning mods and third party apps it’s not a big surprise many are watching with a big ol’ bucket of popcorn.

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        They kicked myself and my entire mod team from r/Canning because we held a vote and our users asked us to shut the community down in protest of their 3rd party app policies.

        Then recently they emailed and messaged me telling me I could get in on the ground floor of buying shares.

        That’s going to be a big resounding “no” from me there u/spez.

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          They emailed me too. Guess I was a power user, because I wasn’t a mod!

          I ignored it. It’s especially egregious because I’m Canadian, and I think it’s for Americans only.

          Since they killed third-party apps, I think I’ve gotten more emails from them than the number of times I’ve signed in. Haven’t even posted a single comment since RIF died.

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            Canadian here as well, and no — we can’t participate. Not that it hasn’t stopped them from contacting me several times anyway.

            Unfortunately, even if this IPO crashes and burns the real villains in this story are going to make it out with millions in their pockets.

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              I didn’t know too much about canning before the drama last summer (except that it’s hard physical kitchen labor I’d rather not do), but when I read what was going on it was clear you guys were really holding the line against the continual bombardment of the sub with truly unsafe “hacks” and “shortcuts” and “it never hurt me and I’ve been doing it for years” posts. I am absolutely convinced there are a non-zero number of people who are alive because you stopped them from this stupidity, and the painstaking, precise work you put into sourcing your statements and linking the science was quite impressive even to this total non-canner.

              And then Reddit admin put their scabs in anyway.

              Which is to say that Reddit admin is made of fools. I split in solidarity when the API changes kicked the accessibility users off (the third party app devs were the ONLY folks who cared enough in almost two decades to make Reddit usable for anyone needing accessibility) but afterward, reading about what they did to gut harm reduction in various subs like r/canning just convinced me that I was right to consider them literally conscienceless and take my posting elsewhere.

              Their loss. In so many ways. Glad you’re here on Lemmy too.

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                Canning can be zen — with a bit of practice it’s not that difficult, and it’s often easy to find someone who is willing to help out. I’m often canning with friends or family — and it’s often as easy as throwing the right ingredients into a pot, bringing them to a boil, ladling it into prepared jars, and letting them sit in the pot.

                As we built up the community, dealing with the “tide of crap” did get easier for us as moderators — we had a good core community of regular users who would quickly flag things that were dangerous, and with an automod rule to auto-remove posts with 5 such reports meant that we were often able to moderate posts of concern while they were private. But it took work to build up the community to the point where it was self-policing. I’m hoping that resiliency we tried to build up has continued to keep the community safe.

                Glad to be here on Lemmy as well. Online discussion boards have been my bread and butter since the grand old BBS days of the mid-80s.

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            They must have an insane definition of power user, because I got one too and I’m absolutely not a power user. Maybe longtime active users got the email as well?

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              Account age + recent activity might be one threshold, though I didn’t get one for my mostly abandoned/much older account.

              It might’ve also been karma, which I had a lot of. But I’ll admit that I was probably a “power user” before the API changes, lol

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          Are you saying that they… canned you?

          Sorry I couldn’t resist.

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            You’re not the first to have noted that — but it remains funny, so we’re good 🤣.

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          Ha they sent me the same message, and while I was not booted as a mod, I led the protest effort in a few subs that I modded in and helped out over in Save3rdPartyApps. I didn’t delete my account, just went silent after resigning when other mods got cold feet as soon as it started to get real.

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            Yeah, you may have seen some of my posts from the time on r/Save3rdPartyApps and/or r/ModCoord. I was one of the few pretty vocal that we had to hold the line, and that a simple two week blackout wasn’t going to be effective. I knew they’d either be forced to capitulate or kick me out as the head moderator or r/Canning — and wasn’t surprised after most of the other mods chickened out that they did just that.

            I wasn’t about to chicken out — the worst they could do is remove from me the privilege of working for them for free. My entire personality and self-worth wasn’t tied to being a Reddit moderator.

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          I got the offer too even though I left in June. 2 million karma, 11 year user. F SPEZ.

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            I also left in June, and also got the offer. My karma was in the low 6 figures and I had been on for like 5 or 6 years. Honestly, a low bar

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            I’m still technically a moderator elsewhere, but I haven’t been active since June (no posts, no moderation, no messages). It’s an artifact of being one of the approved contributors on r/AskScience — they delegate a controlled set of moderator powers to anyone in their Panel Plus programme.

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              While I was going through deleting old messages (that were missed by the auto-deleting program), I noticed I had a 5-year-old message inviting me to be a mod on a tiny little sub. I clicked accept for the hell of it and it was still valid! So I guess I’m technically landed gentry?

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            I gotta ask, why are you rockin’ a Snoo avatar? Even if you still have love for the company but just hate Spez any advertisement/endorsement of it now benefits him.

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            I’m glad people think so — we really wanted to help build an online community of people who could share their joy of home canning, where safety and adhering to the best scientific principles was respected. The most gratifying results were when we would hear from some new canner who were able to get over some fears they had around safety and completed their first successful canning project.

            I haven’t been back to check on the situation since we got the boot, but I hope for the sake of the community there are still people there keeping to this credo. A jar of food just isn’t something worth getting sick (or worse!) over.

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            My experience modding r/Canning burnt me out on online canning forums. There is a ton of unsafe information out there, and so I just got out of online canning discussions altogether.

            There was a Lemmy instance out there that was intended to revolve around self sufficiency that offered me moderation rights to their canning forum, but that instance didn’t really take off, nobody ever posted to their canning community, and the instance went offline several months ago.

            I still can — but I don’t participate in any online canning communities, so I’m not sure what’s trustworthy out there right now.

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        I don’t think that they looked at activity in the past year. They just sent them out in waves based on total karma. I’ve barely been active and not eligible to participate and still got the emails.

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        Yeah I don’t think mods and “power users” that stayed after last year are necessarily against reddit succeeding, just not willing to buy in at a 6.5bil valuation for a company that can’t turn a profit and lost 90+ mil last year and 700+ cumulative.

        I got the invite but didn’t do anything about it because:

        1. I assumed the invite had been sent to just about everyone;

        2. I like going there, but not enough to give them money… Or disable my adblock… Or switch to the accursed “modern layout”…

        Come to think of it, I don’t like reddit at all, Just the communities that exist there.

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          Reddit, the company vs. Reddit, the community.

          Not an iconic duo… They couldn’t be more different from one another in their goals.

          There’s nothing against wanting to make profit of something you own. The way they are forcing through it though. They were just fine with blocking 3rd party apps, in order to not lose on the opportunity to sell the access, because suddenly AI’s hunger to be trained was sucking all the community’s content for free,

          I think that they didn’t even lose a thought about the consequences of suddenly charging an absurd amount of money to get API access. They way they handled it, made obvious that they don’t give a flying fuck.

          An established and beloved way of using Reddit, lots of refined apps, being constantly updated over the years. The very apps that enabled a good experience on mobile, specially for mods, enabling people to create that very content they are selling now.

          It’s disrespectful and just bad taste, but not unexpected from a pos like ^fuck Spez tbh

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          I don’t have money to invest anyway, but even if I were a billionaire, there’s no way in hell I’d invest in reddit. It’s never turned a profit, why would anyone ever invest in it?

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        He didn’t get 190 mil. He got 190 mil of stock at that stupid valuation. He got paid like 300k cash. Spez gets nothing if the IPO is an albatross

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        for a company that can’t turn a profit and lost 90+ mil last year and 700+ cumulative. The CEO got 193 mil last year

        A private company doesn’t really need to turn a profit…

        Even publicly traded companies just need to do it because it effects shareholder price.

        With tax shenanigans, it’s often better for a private company to never turn a profit.

        If profit was important, they could have just paid the CEO 100 million and turned a 3 million profit.

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      Yeah, I’ve said the same. The fact that they’re aiming for users with high karma means that really think they’re suckers.