The French government issued a decree Tuesday banning the term “steak” on the label of vegetarian products, saying it was reserved for meat alone.

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    8 months ago

    No one ever bought vegan steak thinking it was meat. And calling it a vegan steak perfectly explains what kind of product you’re looking at.

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      That’s just false. I’ve seen multiple people including myself and my so make that mistake multiple times.

      Maybe it’s packaged more clearly where you’re from, but over here the difference is quite subtle

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          I’m gonna devil’s advocate for two seconds here and say I’ve bought vegan chicken schnitzel and it said chicken on it.

          And then I’m gonna stop devil’s advocating and say it was delicious. Throw some sweet soy sauce and peri peri spice on that bad boy and you got a gourmet feast.

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          Nice assumption. I can tell a pork steak from eg. a beef one by looking at it. If it’s sold as steak and doesn’t say something like marinated, I am safe to assume that there is no list of ingredients to check. This is true in Australia and Europe supermarkets. Just a fucking piece of meat. 3 seconds decision while you move on with your shopping.

          A meatless product made to look like a beef steak can easily look like a beef steak. So no, until yesterday you didn’t need a microscope to ‘care’ what animal it was you were buying. Now I need to make sure that it’s actual fucking meat. That’s where making mislabelling illegal does help.

          I’d love to see the reaction of the vegans if someone was sneaking in meat or eggs in products labelled as vegan.

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            You’re only assuming that those minced meat is beef when you pick it. It’s pretty dumb running through the world with closed eyes and demanding everyone to counteract your shortcoming. I’m sure youre able to read.

            I’d love to see the reaction of the vegans if someone was sneaking in meat or eggs in products labelled as vegan.

            Lol what’s wrong with your mind do you really think vegetables somehow hurt you?

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              No I love vegetables, it’s just that I like to choose and I hate processed foods. Most important I like to know what I am buying and stop customer shaming, I shouldn’t need to read the fine print because some scanmers are trying to sell shit for something else.

              Good follow-up though with your question about vegetables, I go through the veggie aisle and grab a head of broccoli. Am I allowed to assume it’s a fucking broccoli or do I need to read the fine print too? How would vegetarians/vegans (or anyone really) feel if the head of broccoli was plunged in pig fat and sold just as broccoli. And everyone on lemmy was just ‘get over it it’s still broccoli, it’s a word you don’t own it’ and some other bullshit about shortcomings.

              The European union has some pretty strong regulations around food and mislabelling. Sorry doesn’t work that way, you can’t blame a customer for not reading the fine printing.

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                Yea the EU allows to call plant based products steak lol. Because its defined as a piece of fried edible. And broccoli is just broccoli, sonce ever. If you cover it in fat it’s “broccoli with fat”.

                You can’t blame others for you not being able to think or read

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                  Not just me, also a whole fucking coutry that just legislated about it and more countries will follow.

                  It’s a new thing, it takes time. I and its not just about me not being able to read, it’s all the customers that will be mislead and sold processed food instead of, you know, a steak. That some people don’t Sure it is allowed, this is a while new thing, give time to regulators to catch up, as France is doing.

                  Also, Oxford dictionary has four definitions for steak, none of them is that spew of words that you just made up to fit your narrative:

                  1. a thick slice of good quality beef
                  2. a thick slice of any type of meat
                  3. beef that is not of the best quality, often sold in small pieces and used in pies, stews, etc.
                  4. a large thick piece of fish
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                    English isn’t eveb any EU member’s language lol who cares about oxford.

                    And do you really think anything without a transparent packaging would be unprocessed? To be precise, every food in a supermarket beside raw vegetables/fruits is processed. Even meat. You’re confused and living an illusion

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                    Ah yes, the good old dictionary. I’m glad this unchanged document of all human language has remained unchanged for millenia, helping us communicate effectively through the ages.

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            I can tell a pork steak from eg. a beef one by looking at it.

            apparently you can’t though

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        Would love to see some pictures if you could share. Maybe you just don’t pay much attention to labels?

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          But that’s the actual problem there. For decades you could buy a steak at a supermarket without having to worry about it being some processed shit sold as s steak.

          Stop blaming it on the customer. If it’s even remotely confusing, it shouldn’t be allowed, and France is taking steps in the right direction.

          France, Italy, Spain and other countries in that area have a strong food identity and culture, mislabelling is taken seriously. It comes from decades of scammers trying to piggyback on mozzarella, champagne, parmigiano, hamon. Someone trying to sell crap and pretend it’s something else is nothing new, and it’s just taken care as it should.

          Your plant matter protein block is in aisle 5, just don’t call it a steak as it is confusing customers that give that word a very specific meaning and have for a very long time. Fucking great opportunity to come up with a new name and make it into the dictionary next year.

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            But then the problem isn’t the name at all right? You just want to hate for hates sake. If the name was the problem, it would be because you read labels and get mistaken. But you don’t read labels at all.

            And if this law was about helping consumers, they would simply mandate a standardized vegan label on vegan products that imitate other products. This would help both vegans and sensitive little cristals like you.