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Well, as a Ukrainian, I also hope so, but unironically.
Because if my hometown will get conquered by “hostile force” people will finally be able to leave, and I will be able to visit it and leave it afterwards.

Nah probably not, but he’ll be stopped at Kursk just like the last time :)

protecting Ukraine

So, turning Ukraine into a mass prison that people are desperatly trying to escape, where people are kidnapped on the streets and sent to die on the frontlines? Can they somehow opt-out of this protection? Yeah, didn’t think so, obviously you know what’s better for other people.

No rational person could think he intends to do anything but hand over Ukraine to Russia.

Obviously it wouldn’t happen, just the current front lines would become the new borders.

But even your bogeyman “hand over Ukraine to Russia” is still orders of magnitudes better for Ukrainians than the current situation.

Start of the war between Russia and Ukraine.

Now I have to worry every day that people I know (who have not managed to escape Ukraine) will either get killed by a Russian rocket or will get kidnapped from the streets by Ukrainian “recruitment officers”.

This, but lemmy.world instead of lemmy.ml :)

No point in participating in political discussions on LW, as mods just label anything they don’t like as misinformation/propaganda/etc. 🙃

Why is Telegram “insane”?

Left-wingers identify nearly everyone who doesn’t agree with them or doesn’t share their delusions as “right-wing extremists”.

The existence of this post (and its title in particular) might give you a clue…

I haven’t seen Kamala saying anything about ending the war tho or having a plan for that…

Omg, it’s really impossible to argue with you :/

In a dozen messages we’ve exchanged, you provided exactly 0 evidence of what you’re trying to prove, exactly 0 quotes of me that prove any of your points and exactly 0 valid arguments.
It’s impossible to continue this discussion :(

The statement immediately above was evidence.

You’re confusing your opinion with evidence. Sorry to tell you, but it doesn’t work that way.

No. The opposite is true, obviously.

Oh really? So you have empathy towards hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians that died in the war, and also wish for war to end as soon as possible, and therefore support Trump who is the only politician who promised to end the war? Well, in that case what are we even arguing about :)

You are requesting evidence of a negative

I am requesting evidence of your arguments. If you argue something that you can’t prove, then your argument is by definition invalid.

Well, considering you cannot provide any evidence/proofs to anything you’re saying, I guess there is nothing more to talk with you about :(

That’s a shame

The consistent behavior of conservatives world-wide is evidence that conservatives are incapable of experiencing empathy for those outside of their in-group.

You didn’t provide any proof for that :)

And actually, why do you even consider me a conservative? Is it only conservatives who have a compassion for human life? :/

Your suggestion that your capacity for empathy is somehow different than all other conservatives is bizarre and itself requires evidence to be taken at face value.

You are the one suggesting that somehow I lack empathy, so burden of proof is on you ;)

Holy shit, you wrote such long comment, and it still doesn’t prove a single manipulation/deceptio n/lie from me XD

This is not a true statement on its face.

Let me give you a tip, since you seem to struggle argumenting: if you want to prove it - the easiest way is to provide a counter-example ;)

Most replies to your “innocent inquiries” provide evidence of your deception as you reply with moved goal-posts.

Well, again - provide a single example of that :)

This claim is an absurd falsehood that is evident to every rational human who reads your comment history.

And again, a fallacy without an actual argument.

Well go on, prove it, expose my lies to every one :)

Your post history is consistent evidence of my claim. Every comment you’ve made on Lemmy has been deceptive and manipulative on its face or in its substance.

Here we go again…
Every time somebody says this, I ask for just one example. And never receive it (because I neither manipulate nor deceive anyone :).
So, any examples? :)

There is no such thing as a “good conservative” alive today.

Well yeah, you definitely seem like a good guy

Well, this is false :)

I do experience empathy towards all Ukrainians dying in this war, not just my friends and family (although obviously I care more about them, that’s how life works).

It is not possible for a liberal to enter a discussion in good faith. Every word uttered by a liberal is deception or manipulation. Every word.

See? I can do it as well :)
Now, do you have an actual point/argument that makes sense?

You seem to have trouble understanding my question :(

Let me rephrase it in that case - whom should I support if I want war to end?
It’s definitely not Dems though, as they will continue the war just like they were doing this whole time.

In case you are not willing to answer it, good day to you as well :)

Well, first of all no - it’s a fallacy and doesn’t work like that ;)

Secondly, if there are two parties, and you distrust both, but first party has been supporting war for two years and says that they will continue to do so, and the second party says they will stop it - how is it not the logical choice to support the second party (assuming you are actually affected by the war and so want it to end)?