Not even that, even finding loopholes or ways to sneak in the profit motive at the expense of the consumer.

Wonder how they are going to twist this into somehow being even more anti-consumer.

Honestly I actually tend to think Oat Milk goes with coffee better than cow’s milk, and I’m not a vegan at all. Something about the oat taste I guess.

And that’s perfectly fine. Coffee isn’t that complicated to make. Espresso on the other hand takes a lot of work to get right, and even if you can make it with a couple hundred bucks, it will take 20 minutes of work for a single shot, rather than 3-4.

Oh, for sure. I close to never drink milk drinks, so third wave stuff is great for me, but acid and milk don’t mix at all.

I feel that exactly! Haha. My partner hates coffee, but will occasionally sip espresso just to contort her face into a brand new form of disgust I’ve never seen before, just to humor me. I have lots of non-coffee nut family members as well, so it’s usually just me loving it.

I’ve been thinking about getting an easy bulk coffee maker for guests, all I currently have are single dose hand grinders and whatnot. One day…

Oh God, I’m sorry for your loss… haha

To be fair, you totally can taste the difference between roast levels and washed or natural coffees, and better coffee does taste better, but there are severely diminishing returns after around 25 dollars a bag.

Yea, I understand that! You can go even cheaper if you are willing to sacrifice workflow, like using a Nomad or cheaper Flair model, or Cafelat Robot. Espresso hand grinders are really affordable now if you’re willing to hand grind too.

You can spend that much on a competent espresso setup with a Flair 58 and 1Zpresso K Plus/Ultra, or J-Max if you want something more modern and less traditional! However, you run the risk of the endless accessory game, and the urge to upgrade to something like a Zerno…

Getting into espresso was an expensive mistake, but I love it too much to stop.

150 bucks will get you a flair neo, which is more than fine, but no grinder. That takes another couple hundred bucks for something like a J Max. The taste will be great, even, but the workflow is so bad only a lunatic would make one daily.

That’s why espresso is so nuts, you often see people spending thousands on grinders and equipment without batting an eye.

Imagining making 3 cappucinos with a flair neo or picopresso is killing my soul

Coffee, specifically espresso. While you can technically get started with a couple hundred bucks and a ton of sheer will, the rabbit hole is intense, with proper espresso machines often costing well into the thousands, and grinders matching it.

Ironically, getting into cheap espresso equipment is probably more costly than never getting into it, as there’s always something better and marginal costs come into play.

There’s coffee, and then there’s espresso. The former is much more sane, and unfortunately I’m into the latter…

Big fan of Bladerunner 2049. The Handmaiden is also great.

The Handmaiden and Lady Vengence are fantastic too.

Office real estate would crumble as a market. Even though the world would be better repurposing office buildings, the number must go up.

ThePirateBay… Is REAL!