• Rustmilian@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    The Luddites of Linux are one’s desperately trying to convince people that Xorg is perfectly flawless and that Wayland is vaporware.

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      Why would people you call luddites even care about your opinion really?

      Come back with your Wayland ad when there’s something like CWM or FVWM for it.

      It’s simply functionally inferior now. Calling people luddites won’t change that.

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        Why would people you call luddites even care about your opinion really?

        Literally, YOU right now.
        Also, this is the linux community; everyone has an opinion on everyone else’s opinion.

        Come back with your Wayland ad when there’s something like CWM or FVWM for it.

        LabWC, Enlightenment, Wayfire, Weston, Sway, Hyperland, Vivarium, DWL, Velox, etc.

        It’s simply functionally inferior now.

        It’s functionally superior in many ways, and here’s the real kicker, its actually maintainable and expandable.
        Xorg HDR when? How many decades and still don’t have HDR? LMAO.
        I’m done waiting for Xorg to improve and implement features that simply will never be.

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          Just fyi this isn’t the Linux community. It’s just “technology”.

          Granted on lemmy it’s basically just one big Linux community.

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          Literally, YOU right now.

          I’m improving the community by answering demonstrably stupid opinions. So I don’t care about you in particular.

          Sway, Hyperland, Vivarium, DWL, Velox, etc.

          Wrong.

          Xorg HDR when? How many decades and still don’t have HDR? LMAO.

          I don’t use HDR and I don’t care. Just like you don’t care about what I use.

          its actually maintainable and expandable.

          Yes, I’m sure somewhere 10 years after I’ll use it after it’s been finally expanded to something usable.

          I’m done waiting for Xorg to improve and implement features that simply will never be.

          Too bad

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            I’m improving the community by answering demonstrably stupid opinions

            You answer you’re own opinions? funny.

            Wrong

            CWM : stacking window manger
            LabWC, Enlightenment, Wayfire, Weston, and Sway, etc.

            FVWM : Tab Window Manager
            DWL, Hyprland, Sway again, etc.

            You’re factually disproven.

            I don’t use HDR and I don’t care…
            I’m sure somewhere 10 years after…

            Luddite : one who is opposed to technological change.
            Thanks for proving my point. For further discussion you can TELNET me @ www.megaboomerenergy.com::80

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              This is incomprehensible, you are arguing not having seen once what you are arguing about.

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                If you want a 1:1 equivalent WM, then you’ll just have to build it yourself scrub.
                The WMs I listed can already do everything CWM & FVWM can, then some.

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                  The WMs I listed can already do everything CWM & FVWM can, then some.

                  I can send you my FVWM config and hear how are you going to achieve that.

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                    First I’d start with either DWL, Hyprland, or possibly Sway, then read the documentation re-creating everything as close as possible. (⁠◠⁠‿⁠◕⁠)
                    All the features are there, just glue it yourself. Just the same way you’d convert those same configs to an i3 & DWM equivalent.
                    If you can’t deal with that and want a 1:1 WM, then you’ll just have to build it yourself or convince one of the other 3 people who still use FVWM to do it.

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      You people are fucking crazy and will literally find anything to fight about. Normal users don’t care about this sort of shit and it’s the thing that turns people completely off when they inevitably run into a problem with Linux.

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        inevitably run into a problem with Linux

        This has nothing to do with any of kind of Linux problem.
        It’s just Luddites crying because Linux is moving on from outdated flawed software that has a bunch of unfixable problems.
        Same shit happens with windows, my guy. “WHAAAAAAAA MY WINDOWS XP/98 WHAAAAAA”, at least it’s often partially valid for windows…
        Luddites are not exclusive to any particular OS.

        If someone is having a Linux issue, they just need to ask. Literally just ask me, or the vast major of other users, we’ll literally provide better tech support than Windows will ever have.

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          yeah I’ve seen the windows support forums, every official response either misses the point of the question or the answer is straight up wrong.

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            What gets me is the replies like “just wipe it & reinstall the whole thing”.
            Yeah right, like I’mma spend an entire hour wiping, reformatting and reinstalling Windows, then varying additional time reconfiguring everything for a problem that likely has an extremely simple solution but they’re too lazy to gather the necessary information to actually solve it.
            Assuming that the Windows installer doesn’t fuck up and I have to restart the install process again, which has happened to me several times.
            At least Linux takes 5-10m tops to install for the user friendly distros.
            Even I, a Linux user who’s spent hours upon days debugging kernel issues for my hardware can see how fuckin stupid that shit copout advice is.

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        Yeah, I don’t know why they devolve back to tribalism. I just installed the thing and the programs I had to use and just…kept using it since I didn’t want to pirate windows xd. No need to shout to others what’s my favorite fake non Unix distro or anything.

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          This is not tribalism.
          This is people crying because Windows moved from 95 to 98 for comparison.

          Xorg has a plethora of unfixable issues, and people are mad that we can’t & don’t want to stick to it for all eternity, crippling the hell out of Linux growth & innovation.