• DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz
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    9 months ago

    So, all these exploits seemingly still require physical access to the car/product electronics? If so, that seems to make it somewhat less of an issue (but still an issue of course) than if they could gain e.g. root access without physical access to the car or even proximity at all.

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      9 months ago

      I’m not that worried about my laptop in regards to physical access because I don’t usually leave it in public unattended for long.

      My car? Sometimes that thing sits in a parking spot or paid garage for weeks when traveling. I also leave it unattended in public most times I go brick and mortar shopping.

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        9 months ago

        Someone still needs to physically break in to the car, which will usually trigger alarms and attention. Like I said, it is still cause for concern, but moderate concern IMO. I would be a hell of a lot more worried if it was possible from anywhere in the world to take over my car remotely. The need for physical direct access to electronics inside the vehicle makes it less vulnerable.

        Are you worried about leaving your laptop in your house/apartment? Because anyone could also just break in there and have physical access to your stuff, arguably with even more privacy during the act than with a car parked out in public plain view.

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          9 months ago

          Fair argument

          There is one additional factor though which is that the majority of crimes happen on impulses and depend on perceived potential for reward. A tesla, if you know where to sell it is a clear reward. Cars also tend to be very standard. If you can steal one you know how to steal plenty.

          For a house (tend to be more career criminals) you can never be sure there isn’t someone home, a dog. Layouts are unknown, chance of leaving identifiable evidence goes up as you take time. Escape routes may be limited. There is definitely some additional risk Involved, creative skill required.

          I am gonna go on a limb and say for criminals there as advantages and disadvantages to both types of thievery.

          Goes without saying that appropriating/breaking items, invading living space from others for any other reason then life/death survival isn morally repulsive and wrong.

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          9 months ago

          Have you seen how fast car thieves can steal cars now? Through repeater attacks or special devices, they can be gone in 60 seconds.

          Car alarms only deter the most casual of thieves.

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      9 months ago

      People said this about the Jeep vulnerabilities until they found a way to exploit them remotely.

      Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.