WARNER ROBINS, Ga. — A Warner Robins teacher is accused of threatening to behead a student after she made a comment about his Israeli flag, according to the Houston County Sheriff’s Office.

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    it’s the belief that Jews have a right to a state.

    Bullcrap. Zionism originated as an antisemitic Christian idea that was specifically based on the premise that Jewish people “don’t belong” in (so-called) “western civilization” and should return “where they came from” - ie, Palestine.

    Keep in mind that Jews are both a race and a religion.

    White supremacist much? Do you want to tell me now that Ethiopian Jewish people and Ashkenazi are the same “race”?

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      Uh no, Zionism is not a Christian idea. It’s been an idea long before Christianity was even around. I’m flabbergasted that you called me a white supremacist for stating a fact. Ethiopian and Ashkenazi Jews could very well share DNA linking them back to the original Jewish diaspora.

      https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2017/03/21/beta-israel-reconsidered-defending-israelite-ancestry-ethiopian-jews/

      “As the BBC reports, the study suggests that “Ethiopians mixed with Egyptian, Israeli or Syrian populations about 3,000 years ago.” Professor Chris Tyler-Smith, from the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, told the BBC: “By analyzing the genetics of Ethiopia and several other regions we can see that there was gene flow into Ethiopia, probably from the Levant, around 3,000 years ago, and this fits perfectly with the story of the Queen of Sheba.” Note that the study does not contradict the 2007 work by Entine or other historical evidence. The results suggest that Israelites-Jews entered the region 3,000 years ago, but they were not necessarily consolidated as a group until about 1,500 years ago. Also, note the study does not necessarily confirm the biblical story of affair between Queen Sheba of ancient Ethiopia and king Solomon of ancient Israel.”

      Here’s another

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3543766/

      “By principal component analysis, it was observed that the Jewish populations of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East formed a tight cluster that distinguished them from their non-Jewish neighbors (Fig. 1). Within this central cluster, each of these Jewish populations formed its own subcluster, in addition to the more remote localization of members of some Diaspora communities. The observation of a major central tight cluster was supported by statistical metrics for genetic distances (Fst, allelic sharing distances).”

      With all this said, even if Ethiopian Jews and Ashkenazi Jews are not actually genetically related, they still get targeted the same whether they practice Judaism or not.

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        I’m flabbergasted that you called me a white supremacist for stating a fact.

        Oh, look… a white supremacist is “flabbergasted” that someone pointed out their white supremacism.

        Yawn.

        Uh no, Zionism is not a Christian idea

        Nope. Christian zionism predates Jewish zionism by about two decades. It’s such non-controversial history you’ll even find it on wikipedia, Clyde.

        Ethiopian Jews and Ashkenazi Jews are not actually genetically related,

        I’m genetically related to every other human being on the planet, genius - does that make me every “race” according to people like you who buy into the tenets of “race science”?

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          I have literally no idea how Jewish communities sharing specific DNA linking them to the levant has anything to do with white supremacy, or how that makes me a white supremacist. Zionism started after the Jewish Diaspora in 8th century BCE. Are all scientists that study genetics racist? Where are you getting this from and why are you so angry about it?

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            Zionism started after the Jewish Diaspora in 8th century BCE.

            No, it didn’t. Zionism started in the late 1800s/early 1900s.

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                  This is the very first line in the book “Der Judenstaat” by Theodor Herzl, considered to be the father of modern Zionism starting with this book. “The idea which I have developed in this pamphlet is a very old one: it is the restoration of the Jewish State.” Herzl simply renewed the idea in modern times, so many websites will list him as the start. However, a little digging into Jewish history and you will find Zionism is a very old idea.

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                    The idea is old but the specific movement and the execution of it is very young.

                    Zionists are primarily characterised by “the end justify the means” which mostly means they will kill and expell anyone they don’t like.

                    Jews however want their promised land but not specifically by violent means.

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            I have literally no idea how Jewish communities sharing specific DNA

            Only a white supremacist classifies people into “races” based on arbitrary bullcrap like “sharing specific DNA.” Methinks you don’t seem to know how white supremacism works - despite the fact that you see the world through it’s lens. It’s a pretty common symptom amongst sufferers of the particular disease we call “westernism.”

            Zionism started after the Jewish Diaspora in 8th century BCE.

            No it didn’t, Clyde. Again… it’s such non-controversial history you’ll even find it on wikipedia.

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              Race is the wrong word in the modern American context. Jews aren’t a race in the sense of black vs white.

              Jews are, however, an ethnicity - much like how you can be ethnically Navaho or ethnically Basque. It’s a matter of being part of a community of people with a shared culture and ancestry. And yes, beta Israel and Ashkenazim are both ethnically Jewish.

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                Jews aren’t a race in the sense of black vs white.

                That’s really weird, Clyde… considering that it’s the only understanding of “race” we have here in our fundamentally white supremacist society.

                Do tell… what does the KKK and the neonazis think of your (supposedly) “nuanced” take on pseudo-scientific “race science?”

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                  Race used to be commonly used as a synonym of ethnicity - it isn’t rare to see references to the German race, the Celtic race, Greek race, etc.

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                    Oh… so dividing people into “races” using the most arbitrary characteristics is a recent thing?

                    You don’t say.