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Is the Fairphone 5 just a repeat of a proven formula or a real improvement compared to its predecessors?

While they were happy with what the fairphone 4 brought to the table, they seem to like what was changed for the fairphone 5.
What are you guys’ opinions on this? A welcome change? would you get one if your phone died within the next year?

        • tsonfeir@lemm.eeEnglish
          146·
          11 months ago

          I’m not going to criticize the project, because it’s good. But, to me, using anything that gives Google an edge in controlling the direction of technology is bad. So, no Chromium products and no Android.

          • sir_reginald@lemmy.worldEnglish
            82·
            11 months ago

            I despise Google, and I agree with chromium, but when the only other alternative is using the proprietary walled garden that is iOS, I’ll take degoogled Android everyday.

            • tsonfeir@lemm.eeEnglish
              33·
              11 months ago

              What can android do that you actually do that iOS cannot?

              • sir_reginald@lemmy.worldEnglish
                121·
                11 months ago

                For starters, you can degoogle Android, you can’t deapple iOS.

                You can replace the manufacturer android with a clean, free software and secure Android ROM, like GrapheneOS. iOS is a black box, fully proprietary and controlled by Apple.

                You can install apps from third parties on Android, like F-Droid. On iOS every app must be approved by Apple.

                You can’t use an iPhone without an Apple account, you can use Android without a Google account.

                Android has multiple profiles support, which comes handy for completely isolating apps from the rest of your phone.

                There’s much, much more. That’s just what came to my mind right now.

                • tsonfeir@lemm.eeEnglish
                  1·
                  11 months ago

                  How can I download apps (not side load) from a store (play store for example) without having a Google account?

                  • sir_reginald@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    1·
                    11 months ago

                    You need a Google account just for the Play Store, given that it’s a Google product.

                    You can download apps from other stores just fine: install F-Droid for example, or Amazon which has their own app repository too, and you’ll be able to download and install apps from there. (I don’t recommend using Amazon, it’s just an example)

                    For apps on the Play Store, you can use Aurora Store which proxies the Google Store and does not require a Google account.

                • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  35·
                  11 months ago

                  “deapple iOS”

                  Why would I want to make a secure device less secure tho

              • Euphoma@lemmy.mlEnglish
                1·
                11 months ago

                Personally, I like using the terminal on my phone, and the only terminal I found for iOS is extremely slow because its emulating linux.

              • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                13·
                11 months ago

                For a regular user… basically nothing.

                I quit google products and services a decade ago, so I was “relegated” to iOS, which… does basically the same exact fucking thing but better in every way. It’s spendy though. I also like their privacy stance, which is “we cost a lot but we’re not selling all of your data to advertisers”

                I have not found a single thing I can’t do on iOS that I COULD on Android.

                People spout WaLLeD GaRdEn and what I read is “privacy” and I’m in

                • tsonfeir@lemm.eeEnglish
                  21·
                  11 months ago

                  They’ll complain about unauthorized developers…. Which I wouldn’t want anyway.