• MercuryUprising@lemmy.world
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    Revolution doesn’t have to occur with polite protesting. When the resistance was happening in France it was done by targeting critical Nazi infrastructure and personnel.

    It’s never easy, but if you are Russian and you value freedom, then you’re at war with your government, and currently your government has you in a choke hold. Your only option is to gouge out your opponents eye, even though you might die trying, because you’re never getting out of the choke hold without trying.

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      Your only option is to gouge out your opponents eye, even though you might die trying

      Yeah, good luck with that. People in Russia are exactly like you and me, believe it or not. They have families, jobs, cats to feed and watch YouTube. Some want to get rid of Putin as much as you. Not many want to inform the family that they plan to go and die trying.

      But nevertheless many actually do, arsons are all over the news. These people are in jail now serving 25y sentences.

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        It worked against the Nazis. It worked against Americans in Vietnam. What exact scenario are you imagining where insurgency and sabotage doesn’t work against an occupying military?

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          One where 1) there are ~4.5M siloviki per ~140M and lethal force isn’t out of question 2) insurgencies in any other city that isn’t Moscow wouldn’t matter at all past the first week 3) the general populace associates themselves with the country and government way too much, even the dissenting minority and 4) there’s no external force for them to rise against; 5) finally, the “elites” never were political actors, not in this century, and the dissidents who consider themselves to be political actors are good media at best, pathetic clowns at worst.

          Trust me, I’d love to see that happening and am clinging to the slightest hints of it. There are virtually none, even if one buys into Russian dissident media. My bet is that even freeing all the territories wouldn’t spark them. The only ray of hope is the lack of a successor.

          Sabotage is powerful in theory, but, as Russia’s modus operandi is self-sabotage, it’s grown pretty self-sabotage-resilient. My money’s rather on sheer incompetence.