Recognizing fake news now a required subject in California schools::undefined

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    I didn’t need to write a 10 page paper on 3D trig for general math. Nor how to transpose a matrix.

    I don’t think that’s what most people learn in terms of math. If you’re not going to college you probably don’t need trig or calc, but a basic understanding of algebra and geometry is useful IMO.

    we just kept doing the same imagery fan theorizing from 8th grade to graduation.

    Sounds like a problem with a shitty school or poor teachers, rather than a defect of English lit education in general. All the stuff I mentioned above is written into Common Core standards.

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      All the stuff I mentioned above is written into Common Core standards.

      A significant share of people finish common core curriculum long before graduating. That’s why AP, IB, and other advanced courses exist.

      As for English, I don’t think so, I just think there’s only so much to cover. I got a 35 on act reading, and many of my classmates were similar. How’re you going to teach them basic reading better?

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        I meant Common Core in terms of English, like the basing your interpretations of a text on evidence, etc. Catching students up in basic reading skills is a real problem, but I don’t think that’s an issue with how the curriculum is designed, but rather a problem with the basic economic functions of the country, where parents don’t have time to meaningfully interact with their kids because of job pressures. Starting kids on literacy young is hugely important, but a parent with 3 jobs isn’t going to have time to read to their kids every night.

        So there’s pressure on the school to get kids up to grade level without economic support, and there’s pressure on the parents to help their kids without having any time to deal with it… turns out stagnating wages in favor of the millionaire class for 50 years wasn’t the solution after all.

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          Is it not also a problem to wastes years of millions of students lives on education of specifics far beyond what they need or want, merely to fill time because they want everyone in highschool until 17 or 18?

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            I’m not quite understanding your point. Should we stop educating most kids at 14 or 15? Then the prospects for them are starting full time work a few years earlier or something?

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              If mandatory education is really about basic knowledge, if they can demonstrate that basic knowledge at any age they should be free, rather than continuing to imprison them now for no point at all. Of course they could choose to study more if they wanted to.

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        A significant share of people finish common core curriculum long before graduating. That’s why AP, IB, and other advanced courses exist.

        As a former teacher, this is not how educational standards work at all.

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            common core curriculum

            That’s what common core is. A curriculum is built from a set of standards.

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              I never talked about common core itself. I said many students take classes beyond what is covered in common core because they already have learnt the content long before graduating.

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                … I literally quoted you.

                You don’t seem to understand what common core, educational standards, or a curriculum are. Perhaps you should not have strong opinions on this topic

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                  You quoted me saying that people took courses beyond what is covered in common core. You said I didn’t understand educational standards, but I never made a claim about the content of common core other than AP and IB courses cover more specialized topics than what are in common core. And that is simply true. If you disagree actually articulate it rather than saying, “No, you don’t understand but I won’t elaborate”

                  I too can edit my comment to add insults! Multiple times!

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                    You quoted me saying that people took courses beyond what is covered in common core. You said I didn’t understand educational standard

                    Yes because this is impossible. Standards re the roadmap by which curricula are built. This is sort of like saying “I’m not made of atoms, I’m made of amino acids.”

                    AP and IB cover standards more deeply, but the standards are the same.

                    Also I’ve never insulted you.