• Syrc@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    That’s because of the current situation though. People who say it now are like that, so “normal people” don’t say it because it would automatically mean being grouped with them. So only people who don’t care about being labeled as homo/transphobic keep saying that and the “stereotype” reinforces itself.

    Or rather, as I said in my first comment, I don’t get why should anyone say they’re proud of being cishet, same as for being proud of the opposite. But we don’t think people in a gay pride parade are being “heterophobic”, it’s seen as a normal thing (by most reasonable people, I mean).

    If we look at current society I get the difference in treatment, but from a neutral point of view it’s weird that virtually the same expression, just with sexualities swapped, is seen as either empowering or discriminating.

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      People who say it now are like that, so “normal people” don’t say it because it would automatically mean being grouped with them.

      you’re get hung up on the word. There’s no hetero struggle, where people were mistreated or had to hide only because they were straight. Only a total idiot would do this.

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        I still don’t see why something that rightly stopped being a source of shame should turn into a source of pride.

        The circumstances of hetero and non-hetero people are vastly different and that’s obvious, but that doesn’t mean they should be “proud” of that. Saying you’re proud of something doesn’t make the people who discriminate you for it disappear.

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          but that doesn’t mean they should be “proud” of that.

          It’s like talking to a wall. We get it.

          Saying you’re proud of something doesn’t make the people who discriminate you for it disappear.

          Jesus Christ, who said that?

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          rightly stopped being a source of shame

          Except it hasn’t. Huge swathes of American society is still incredibly homophobic. Kids are shamed by their parents. Kids are kicked out by their parents. Meanwhile, we have groups like Moms for Liberty that want to send gay people back into the closet.

          Half the country is trying to make being LGBT a source of shame. That you don’t even see that is shameful in and of itself.

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            Except it hasn’t.

            Half the country is trying to make being LGBT a source of shame.

            If there are people “trying to make LGBT a source of shame”, it means currently it isn’t.

            You know what I meant and I know what you mean, but it’s not what I was talking about. If someone is proud of something they clearly aren’t ashamed of it, I was talking about civilized places, not red states where people can’t even wear pink stuff for fear of being labeled.