This might just be the push I need to switch to Linux desktop.
Do it. With proton the last argument for me to use windows is gone (gaming).
Can you run Adobe software via proton? As soon as that works I’ll be on Linux.
Look at your usecase, if it really requires adobe suite, you are out of luck i’m afraid. Perhaps you could research running a VM or wine, but I havent tried any of that myself.
If you conclude that you dont need features exclusive to adobe you might be able to find a foss alternative.
Perhaps you could research running a VM
It works very well, especially if you pass through your GPU and storage. I can even use this setup for Gaming, no significant performance loss compared to Windows. It’s awesome.
I need Lightroom and I’ve tried Darktable but it just doesn’t cut it.
No, but there are better alternatives to adobe that don’t hog your ram harder then triple a games
Depends one what you need to do, there are some areas in which adobe still has a monopoly
I’m just waiting for full real parity (HDR, and some RT stuff), and I’m gone.
roblox:
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I spent the last ~10 days “playing” with many distros, including testing some current games, and I am literally right now backing up my files and about to reformat my main PC to linux (full drive, no dual). This is after only having experience with copy-paste Raspberry PI guides for my pi-hole.
Don’t totally believe “oh it’s so easy, nothing to configure” - those people are lying, especially if you’ve not used Linux before. But several flavors of Ubuntu are quite pleasant, and I appear to have found a home with PopOS. I can’t find anything that “doesn’t work”, and the worst fixes were just quick searches for help. PopOS won due to nvidia compatibility and a nice, snappy desktop. It also was the fastest in overall reformat cycle time. My wife’s computer is still Windows, if I do have any microsoft emergencies.
Congrats on picking an awesome distro! :) Pop is really nice, and I’m really excited to see what they do with their desktop environment. I feel like we’re spoiled for choice right now on Linux.
There are always things to configure, just like on Windows. I think some people kind of forget that they had to learn to configure things on Windows at one point. xD
Ok wow… did I jinx myself with this post. Immediately after posting here, I began the install/config phase of a fresh reformat. Encountered a weirdness that the system couldn’t sleep/suspend - immediately woke up. 8 hours later… After installing 5 different distros to confirm it was ALL linux versions (even debian)…
I spent the entire day, 8 hours, searching and referencing and troubleshooting. FINALLY one very random corner of the internet, on an ARCH-LINUX forum, a small comment mentioned that my Gigabyte B550 “had a problem” with sleep. SO THEN I had to start cross-referencing those words (couldn’t “use” the Arch guide, since I was on Pop), and my dude/dudette… I was up to 1am.
Ultimately, I had to COMBINE the “solutions” of FOUR different results, across 2017-2020 (none actually on Ubuntu 22.04) to get the fix to work. Like one taught me the script, but the locations were wrong, one taught me the service I needed, but it was outdated, and then another taught how to fix a service, etc etc, cascading solutions.
SO at close to 2AM - after documenting my own guide, another raw metal install of PopOS, wrote my script & service… and… “it just works!” (pun intended). It works. It sleeps. Have to disable the Gigabyte B550M “GPP0 and GPP8” device, which are bridges to the NVMe drives.
Funny enough though, as much as this is “yup, thats Linux!” I feel like it’s not fair, and not Linux’s fault. This is a random, and really unlucky, issue with my specific board. I am typing this to you, while on my new PopOS install, and sleep/suspend still works.
What a ride!
Wow. That’s unfortunate, but hey, you got it working! Congrats! :D
as I keep chatting to you on a windows thread…
remembering I started linux 9 days ago, hopefully that’s the biggest adventure I go on for awhile. I wonder if there’s some place I should post my story, but maybe it’s too specific to be wildly helpful.
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is rather easy.
But anyway, no mainstream user-friendly Linux distribution is that hard to use if you can read and think.
So when people say that they can’t manage one on their desktop - they also usually can’t manage Windows on their desktop, they just think they can.
About a month ago Windows 11 started forcing ads for apps and services I didn’t need. Immediately installed a popular Linux distribution to have some peace of mind. There’s every flavor of desktop out there. I picked one for work and games (pop_os). It’s out of my way most of the time and it’s not trying to sell me anything. I recommend it, specially, if you’re someone that doesn’t fiddle with settings too much, it just work.
if you’re using windows in 2023, I doubt it
I use Windows, macOS, and Linux, but all in separate ways. Haven’t used a desktop Linux in quite some time — only headless Linux servers.
Why? I switched to Linux in 2023.
Well in that case I might replace windows 12 with not using windows 12
Im 70% sure I’m replacing wins 11 with Linux already so join us
A few weeks ago when they made the search bar come back after I had told it to go away I switched to Linux. It’s weird the small annoyances that add up. It’s great so far. With KDE for the desktop environment, you can make it look however you want, including almost identical to any version of windows you want. It’s really quite usable, and generally I’m already faster and more comfortable with it than I was with windows.
XP gang
Botnet gang :/
Yeah, don’t use old versions of Windows (or any OS really). Upgrade to Win 10/11 or install Linux (or something else that’s supported).
Microsoft may replace the Start button with the Copilot AI in Windows 12
Yeah, they could also replace the start button with a shit emoji. But there’s no indication at all anybody wants to do any of that because they’re not idiots. You only said that so people visit your shitty website. In fact, not even the quote you reference for your article suggests any plans of replacing the start button whatsoever:
“The Copilot is like the Start button,” Nadella explains. “It becomes the orchestrator of all your app experiences. So for example, I just go there and express my intent and it either navigates me to an application or it brings the application to the Copilot, so it helps me learn, query and create — and completely changes, I think, the user habits.”
Fuck clickbait headlines and fuck websites bending any and all content to the SEO voodoo.
lemmy reddit is basically a misleading clickbait megaphone
And everybody’s just happy to bitch about whatever the headline suggests without ever checking if it’s even true.
And everyone and their grandma is switching to Linux, this time for real
Lemmy communities need to start banning domains that post clickbait garbage like this.
I love this idea. The reason people continue using Windows is because they’re used to it. Messing with the Start button is going to piss off even the most patient users. Not to mention it’ll be an absolute nightmare for any IT department. Just imagine an army of Karens calling your hotline first thing on Monday morning, yelling at you because you took away the Start button. It’ll make Windows 8 look like a huge success.
They already fucked with start menu and search and it’s already a problem for IT. I can’t find any app I got installed unless I spell it out right, and even then it might work with just 3/8 letters in but no further.
Sometimes I just click through program files cause it’s faster.
Back to cluttering the desktop with shortcuts to everything it is then.
For some fucking brilliant reason, searching update shows discord, so to find updates I have to spell it wrong
sometimes you can’t find an application even when you spell it out correctly, hafta go through the apps list to find them.
I feel like things like Classic Shell (or whatever the go-to alternative is nowadays) are just going to make bank from enterprise customers suddenly wanting to make their desktops usable for the average user.
Doubtful. It’s hard enough to get programs past our security team and having half malware bundled programs like this won’t be an easy task.
Lol, what? There is no malware in classic shell, or start11 or explorer patcher. Wtf are you talking about?
Tell that to dumbass IT “managers” that think a process monitor is a hacking tool.
i remember some game refusing to launch just because i had it installed
Openshell on github. I don’t know that it’s the same code, but I’m pretty sure the Classic Shell website linked to it.
They tried fucking with it on Windows 8 and that worked out so great.
tbh i liked the win8 start menu
Which is why this is obviously just a shitty clickbait headline. Have you read the article? Nobody is planning to replace the start button but they could and that’s enough for tech “journalism” these days.
So now I can use an AI to find notepad++ on bing?
No, silly! You use AI to find sponsored ads on Bing! You don’t need notepad++ to ＣＯＮＳＵＭＥ
No. Search isn’t for finish g what you want anymore… common misconception.
Is this like the previous theory that Windows 12 would be subscription based?
“The Copilot is like the Start button,” Nadella explains. “It becomes the orchestrator of all your app experiences. So for example, I just go there and express my intent and it either navigates me to an application or it brings the application to the Copilot, so it helps me learn, query and create — and completely changes, I think, the user habits.”
Saying “copilot is like the start button” is not saying “copilot will replace the start button”, the article is dishonest clickbait and stupid.
This is just MS taking another kick at Cortana, this time powered by LLM generative AI.
Remember those times when Microsoft said that Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows, as it will get to a free “Windows-as-a-Service” model? My ass, now
I can’t find the words to describe how absolutely fucking disgusted I am with the fact that we don’t even have 11 out in full swing and they’re talking about selling us 12 after the “10 would be the last” bullshit.
For fucks sake microturd, get your shit together and stop trying to bleed everyone dry… We know literally every other company in the world is doing that, but it doesn’t make it right… :/
This rage bait bullshit was debunked a long time ago, they never claimed 10 would be last and there’s no official word on 12 being Saas, all of this shit is just mad-boy anger fuel.
You make it sound like it’s not rocket surgery /s
For people upset about the 10-is-the-last-version thing, even though where they said it was not an official communication and was probably either misstated or misunderstood, the tech media picked up on it and Microsoft knew that’s what people thought they said and they did nothing to dispel that notion, at all.
So on that one, there was a good reason to think that’s what they said, and since they let that very common misconception that was actively reported in the tech news media continue without any attempt to correct, the anger is every bit as justified as if Microsoft did actually say it.
They didn’t. That was an “evangelist” talking to Devs one time and the media ran with it.
They didn’t seem to dissuade anyone of the notion, but they never repeated it officially.But it fits my narrative so I will believe in it
-Lemmy/Reddit 2.0
This post needs to be somehow tagged as misleading. Too many people are going to accept the headline at face value.
Windows 10 is my last windows. When i upgrade my destop i’m going Mint
Why not come join us now?
Well, my laptop’s already there, but i really don’t feel like dealing with system reinstallation on my games pc. It’ll be much easier for me to just stick with W10 for the next few months, and then jump ship, seeing as the upgrade i have planned won’t be using any components from my dekstop.
Linux is my daily driver. I used to struggle with it but it’s on point these days. Proton takes care of 90% of the gaming issues.
I can’t imagine ever going back to windows, I really can’t.
Do games work on proton on release day, or does it take work by the community or someone to get new games working?
I’ve had good experience with it, just make sure to use proton experimental if it’s a new release.
I mean, i only ever use my current desktop for games. My laptop where i do basically everything else is already running mint.
Im waiting for something like silverblue and flatpaks to mature before moving.
projectbluefin.io takes silverblue and adds many of the things that you were likely to be waiting for. It did for me.
Mint is great.
I really like it with the Maté DE.
But trying to make cloud filesystems work is a pain in the ass
Insync takes care of that. I even use Insync on Windows PC’s as it’s better than native cloud syncing apps from the likes of Google and Microsoft.
Windows 7 is my last Windows. Windows 10 is my current Windows. Looks like a safe bet to keep skipping at least one version. I did also go from XP to 7.
pretend that you’re my late grandma, whom I miss a lot. her favourite pastime at this time of the day was deleting the C:/system32 directory.
I too, think the Windows start menu is way too responsive and not buggy enough. /s
What are you talking about, it always takes me to the right website when I search for the app I just installed!
It used to be when it was basically just a folder of shortcuts. Since the metro interface the start menu has been getting worse and slower.
I only know of Win 7 and Win 10, never touch 8, 8.1 nor 11. I still use win10 at work and the start menu is very odd. I like to use the win key to summon the menu and search, but the behavior is very inconsistant, sometimes it’s fast, sometimes very slow, sometimes I can search, sometimes not, sometimes it gives me the file/app i am looking for, and sometimes it decides to go for bing results. I must admit, I actully never ever navigate the menu itself appart from turning off the laptop. It is a very slow and inefficient design element in my opinon.
Weirdly enough the windows 11 start menu has gotten better.
I personally don’t find anything I like about the win11 start menu, it feels like such a huge step backwards to me
All the “X company may/could/might” and “X plans on this” news feel like they’re just feeling for a reaction from the public to see what they can and can’t get away with. If it gets too much push back, they just put it on the shelf and boil the frogs for longer before trying again, like with Google and WEI. It’s tiring. Stop being evil you corpo fucks.
“Stop being evil you corpo fucks.”
Narrator: this proved to be as possible as empathetic capitalism, that is to say, physically and theoretically impossible.
Microsoft why are you trying to pull an Elon and destroy your own brand, stop that – what, after all, has a dedicated keyboard key on Windows keyboards, and has for decades?
They’re not. It’s just the author’s “creativity”. There’s no indication of plans to change the start button. Still, they could change the start button, which apparently warrants a misleading article people actually discuss.
I only have one machine that’s still running Windows. This would convince me to finally make that zero.
Same bro. Linux gaming is getting better and better every day. That’s my last hurdle.
I only have one machine using Windows because I don’t want to be “left behind” in the corporate desktop world, but it’s on my “left hand monitor” while my center and right of three monitors are Kubuntu. The specs won’t let me use 11 on any of my systems. My company laptop is still Windows 10 as well because some of our security software doesn’t run on 11 yet.
If I didn’t have to work in the corporate space, I’d quit Windows in a fast second. I have been using Kubuntu as my daily driver for almost 10 years now.
Every day we stray closer to Linux.
I use arch btw
Ahhhh finally time to give Linux a try
Go with Linux Mint, you won’t be disappointed
I’ll try it!
“Oh, don’t tell me what to be disappointed with!”
My login screen has my 2 monitors flipped and I can’t figure out how to fix it. Otherwise, I like it.
First and formost I found this video that might help you out explaining how to set up dual monitor for linux, I have never had two myself but it seems like a good video to get you started
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Try the ‘display’ program preinstalled and see if one of the settings helps you out
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You may need to install graphics drivers if you have not already, open the perinstalled ‘driver manager’ app and see if it detects anything needing done.
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make sure your update manager has everything up to date. open the ‘update manager’ app and see if anything needs done.
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browse through a little of the documentation for xrandr command and see if something rings a bell.
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If those options fail, open the ‘welcome screen’ app preinstalled and click on the ‘help’ section in the left hand side of the app. From there click on the launch button for the IRC chat room. It will open up a program to directly talk with very knowledgeable Linux mint community volunteers who will be more than happy to further help you in real time. Keep in mind depending on time of day or circumstance you may have to wait a little while for someone to be available.
I feel bad that you encountered an issue right away, I hope you have quick success in fixing it.
Thanks for the info!
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