The big question would be does the church teach that the person loses their salvation (acceptance by God, eternal life, place in Heaven) if they kill themselves?
That would be the “big no-no” I thought the poster was referring to, not just “is it bad?”
Basing your entire moral philosophy on an invisible sky daddy is weird and cultish. You should do some serious critical thinking when developing a moral philosophy, it shouldn’t be based on ancient texts and interpreted by people who want your money.
“critical thinking” aka dismissing anything that cannot be 100% proven and holding religious scripture to a less fairer standard than most historical documents.
You need to be more clear. I don’t know what the fuck youre taking about.
Are you trying to make some weird connection between LiBeRaLs and the fact that several people in this thread are dunking on organized religion?? Because if you are, that has nothing to do with politics. That’s religion. And they are very separate entities, even if there’s a fuckton of conservative religious weirdos trying to push their agendas. But you can adhere to any political affiliation and still recognize that believing in magic is primitive.
I don’t think you’re cut out for abstract thought. Or maybe thinking in general. Don’t feel bad though. Not everyone is well equipped for thinking.
In Judaism and Islam, suicide is forbidden. But in recent times Christianity has changed it’s stance on suicide. If it is done under great duress or mental illness, it is not a sin. If it is done to save others, it’s also not a sin.
I mean realistically Jesus himself said that there’s only one unforgivable sin and that is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost.
Even then, he only said you would be in “danger” of hellfire for doing that.
I like to believe that we live in a universe where it is just as hard to go to hell as it is to go to heaven.
I mean even in Revelations it said that everyone would be split right up the middle the ones on the right side would go to heaven the ones on the left side would go to the “second death”, and then there would be a small group of people in the middle who also get shunted off to the second death, and only a very small group of people would be given eternal life and then thrown into hellfire, namely the Antichrist and the false prophet and Satan, and their followers.
So you have to really really want it to go to hell.
Guess he didn’t really believe in his religion since suicide is a big no no.
He was Baptist not Catholic. Keep your sects straight.
The church believes that because life is created by God, it is sacred from conception until natural death and that suicide is self-murder, says C. Ben Mitchell, a professor of moral philosophy at SBC-affiliated Union University in Jackson, Tenn.
The big question would be does the church teach that the person loses their salvation (acceptance by God, eternal life, place in Heaven) if they kill themselves?
That would be the “big no-no” I thought the poster was referring to, not just “is it bad?”
The real big question is, who fucking cares what ancient charlatans told stone age tribes what the fake sky man thinks?
Well, it was son-of-dad’s speculation we were discussing, so I guess at least him.
And me and you, since we’re heavily involved.
No, definitely not me.
It’s hard to keep track. Can you give me a list?
The only thing they actually care about is how they’re perceived by the rest of the cult.
Do you consider Islam and Judaism to also be a cult?
Basing your entire moral philosophy on an invisible sky daddy is weird and cultish. You should do some serious critical thinking when developing a moral philosophy, it shouldn’t be based on ancient texts and interpreted by people who want your money.
“critical thinking” aka dismissing anything that cannot be 100% proven and holding religious scripture to a less fairer standard than most historical documents.
Liberals: “We need to be accepting of diversity, races, genders and other cultures because everybody was born this way!”
Also liberals:
What does this even mean??
Strawman
You don’t think reducing all major faiths and spiritual beliefs to “sky daddy” is a fallacy?
Lol no. The supernatural is literally all the same. A ghost is a ghost and none of them are real.
It means, some people like to believe they’re “the good guys” while practising their own brand of bigotry when it suits them.
You need to be more clear. I don’t know what the fuck youre taking about.
Are you trying to make some weird connection between LiBeRaLs and the fact that several people in this thread are dunking on organized religion?? Because if you are, that has nothing to do with politics. That’s religion. And they are very separate entities, even if there’s a fuckton of conservative religious weirdos trying to push their agendas. But you can adhere to any political affiliation and still recognize that believing in magic is primitive.
I don’t think you’re cut out for abstract thought. Or maybe thinking in general. Don’t feel bad though. Not everyone is well equipped for thinking.
Resorting to personal attacks. Nice job, Daisy.
I do.
Nobody’s perfect
In Judaism and Islam, suicide is forbidden. But in recent times Christianity has changed it’s stance on suicide. If it is done under great duress or mental illness, it is not a sin. If it is done to save others, it’s also not a sin.
According to another poster above he was a baptist, according to them suicide is a sin although not an unpardonable one
https://erlc.com/resource-library/articles/suicide-from-a-christian-perspective/
I mean realistically Jesus himself said that there’s only one unforgivable sin and that is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost.
Even then, he only said you would be in “danger” of hellfire for doing that.
I like to believe that we live in a universe where it is just as hard to go to hell as it is to go to heaven.
I mean even in Revelations it said that everyone would be split right up the middle the ones on the right side would go to heaven the ones on the left side would go to the “second death”, and then there would be a small group of people in the middle who also get shunted off to the second death, and only a very small group of people would be given eternal life and then thrown into hellfire, namely the Antichrist and the false prophet and Satan, and their followers.
So you have to really really want it to go to hell.
There’s no official spokesperson for Baptists. It’s a movement, not an organisation.