There’s a pretty big difference between “this movie is the worst one, but ‘Hutt Slayer Leia’ tho” and “This guy doesn’t understand the Force, the Jedi, the previous movie, that space is frictionless, that a squadron for a capital ship is a good trade, or the technology of the series and the reasons for the limitations on it. Oh, and also he pussed out of ReyxFinn, a plan confirmed by previous screenwriters and novelists, so he could shove in Finn being molested by a stalker?!?”
I can keep going
But I won’t, because I am a big boy who can emotionally handle that some people apparently didn’t understand the themes of a series derided for destroying complexity in cinema.
Well. This kind of proves Granites original point. Also demonstrates precisely why I stopped posting in the Star Wars community. Just so constantly and exhaustingly negative all the time.
Star Wars fandom has been hostile and bitter at one another since at least the prequels. When those were released things turned, hard, and they never came back. When the sequels were released people swarmed those and have been hyper negative ever since.
Things were ALWAYS bad in Star Wars, they just got a thousand times worse with Force Awakens. It’s pretty disingenuous to try and pretend like none of that ever happened.
I’d prefer it if the self-hatred and vicious fandom in-fighting were left to Star Wars, where it belongs.
Think of it as Tuvix and Janeway debating
The stereotype of the angry nerd is a Star Trek fan at a convention…
And Star Wars fans didn’t start arguing until the Movie Which Shall Not Be Named
Return of the Jedi?
Thanks for picking that one up. Too often online it seems like most people have forgotten how long the newest Star Wars has been the bad one.
Probably partially because we’re getting old
There’s a pretty big difference between “this movie is the worst one, but ‘Hutt Slayer Leia’ tho” and “This guy doesn’t understand the Force, the Jedi, the previous movie, that space is frictionless, that a squadron for a capital ship is a good trade, or the technology of the series and the reasons for the limitations on it. Oh, and also he pussed out of ReyxFinn, a plan confirmed by previous screenwriters and novelists, so he could shove in Finn being molested by a stalker?!?”
I can keep going
But I won’t, because I am a big boy who can emotionally handle that some people apparently didn’t understand the themes of a series derided for destroying complexity in cinema.
Well. This kind of proves Granites original point. Also demonstrates precisely why I stopped posting in the Star Wars community. Just so constantly and exhaustingly negative all the time.
Their point was that the Star Wars fandom is more contentious than the Star Trek fandom.
Mine was that that only stated relatively recently, and with one particular movie.
Like, sure, you’d have fans saying a specific movie is worse than the others but it didn’t spawn the kind of grief 8 did.
Star Wars fandom has been hostile and bitter at one another since at least the prequels. When those were released things turned, hard, and they never came back. When the sequels were released people swarmed those and have been hyper negative ever since.
Things were ALWAYS bad in Star Wars, they just got a thousand times worse with Force Awakens. It’s pretty disingenuous to try and pretend like none of that ever happened.
That was not my experience at all. Perhaps I was just young enough during the prequels to be largely the target audience?
And perhaps in twenty years the kids will be talking about SW 23 and ignoring the old farts complain about the Droid Revolution arc.