If everyone at higher ranks has it figured out what’s the point? Like I can understand when someone doesn’t do it but what’s the difference than doing a normal one if people have it down to a science

  • PenguinTD@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Because it’s not “only” about who gets to ball first, but controlling where the ball goes after kick off. If say for 2 players where 1 can always tip the ball away and still keep possession of the ball after kick off, it’s very advantageous in 1s, slightly better for 2s, and okay-ish in 3s if it doesn’t get pinched and heading directly to goal.

    So in 1s, if you can control where the ball goes after kick off, it’s like you have 2~3 goals lead just by having kick off goals. If your goal is to save boost and control where the ball goes, you still need to learn speedflip or read the speedflip so you can control the result of the 50s. But you can’t go too slow otherwise the speed flip have a free shot on net if they choose to.

    On 2s and 3s at higher rank there are different meta but generally it involves losing slightly to your side so your tm8s can follow up. You still can’t just lose out right (not touching the ball at all during kick off, unless it’s fake kick off position. )

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      Dont mean to necro, but also, at least in 1s, gives you a tool to condition the enemy player. Couple of speedflips and they’ll do the same for the third. Might just be you’re able to fake them into giving away possession.

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    1 year ago

    This feels like an odd question. What’s the point of mastering anything if someone else also will? That’s what this logic sounds like. All mechanics you learn and all forms of positioning and ball control are tools to be leveraged. You get good with them and decide when to leverage them. Sometimes you go back and forth to keep your opponent on their toes. In either case, yeah as you grow so do your opponents. You’re waiting to expose and exploit a mistake on the opponent’s end.

    • SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.worldOPM
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      When you master an air dribble you’re not going to 50/50 your opponent every single time. It’s different in this situation. If you have 2 masters of speed kickoff go at it it’s going to be 50/50 every. Single. Time. Literally no different than just doing a normal kickoff.

      When you are doing an air dribble your opponent is also not doing the same exact thing because it’s literally impossible. You see?

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        It’s not 50/50 though. If you consistently watch the top pro players, there is constant nuance. Sometimes they decide to fake last split second. Sometimes they delay intentionally for just a brief moment. Sometimes they go for an actual full speed commit. They mix it up and pay full attention to their opponent all the way to the last fraction of a second before ball touch. They aren’t going to do the same thing I’ve and over again. However, even if they did, mastering the skill becomes essential to keep things 50/50 rather than giving the opponent the advantage. Even if it doesn’t get you ahead, it becomes essential as a means of defense.