• Chariotwheel@kbin.social
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      Yeah, my country, Germany, historically doesn’t even have much choice but to support Israel. Protests in favour of Palestine are banned in various cities, we will be sending arms to Israel. Our media are drumming that now is not the time to remind Israel of human rights and that that the democracy would surely work it out afterwards.

      Jews should feel safe in Germany. We should condemn Hamas. But there is no need to cheer on the extermination of non-Hamas Palestinians in Gaza at the same time.

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        Between Germany and the UK, we probably bear more blame for what’s going on than practically everybody except Israel’s government and Hamas themselves.

        But what can you do? I don’t have any say in what my current government does, let alone one elected 40 years before I was born…

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          Oh, when it comes to the specific conflict zone, yeah. That’s a very British cross to bear.

          I hope you get a reasonable government soon. It’s so sad how the UK currently looks, the government is too busy being proud of the past to make anything for people to be proud about in the present.

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            We have to have a general election by 28th January 2025, and the way the polling figures are looking, I wouldn’t expect them to call an election much earlier than that.

            They’re out and they know it. Can’t wait. Also not expecting much in the way of immediate change, but hey, at least no more Tories. Until we forget and let them back in again.

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              Best of luck, I am hoping every day that Starmer isn’t doing something silly. Like eating breat. Which is apparently deadly in British politics opposed to riding the country into shit, which is a-ok.

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        We should condemn Hamas.

        Hamas IS being condemned, rightfully so.

        But there is no need to cheer on the extermination of non-Hamas Palestinians in Gaza at the same time.

        I have seen no German or International Media that cheers on the killing of Palestinian civilians. None.

        There will be deaths of civilians because they are close to Hamas Targets though. This is unfortunately the reality of war - but those deaths are on Hamas.

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          Hamas IS being condemned, rightfully so.

          I know. Do you understand why I wrote how I wrote it?

          To break it down for you: “This thing that’s right. This people that’s right. But also this.”

          It’s to let you see these three things on a smiliar level.

          Now, then. You also misundstood the cheering part as literal. It is to be taken as encoragement. Our politicians support all of Israel’s actions as defense, that includes cutting off electricity, fuel and water, bombing whole blocks which killed among many innocent palestinians UN workers, and the recent announcement for hundreds of thousands of people to relocated within 24 hours.