Honestly i’m sure this is the best thing that could happen for the reddit execs in terms of user engagement. Writing “fuck spez” on reddit is like shouting “save the planet” from a cruise ship.
I wrote about this elsewhere. Every post about Reddit or place has tons of comments like yours insisting that any engagement is good for Reddit. I disagree.
Reddit want dissenting users to leave! They have no interest in retaining it’s traditional userbase of cynical, lefty, tech-savvy users. They’re incredibly intolerant of advertising and difficult to monetise, and much of the reason why Reddit hasn’t made as much money as some of its competition.
They’d rather we all went elsewhere and left them with doomscrollng cryptobro memelords that don’t care if a post is a corporate shill or not, as long as it’s entertaining.
Sure, not engaging with their site reduced their numbers and thus value. But the number of users on Lemmy is a tiny fraction that I guarantee they’d be happy to lose if it made their userbase more tolerant of corporate bullshittery.
My goal isn’t to knock a fraction off their IPO valuation, it’s to bring other users and communities over to better platforms like this one. Or, perhaps, for Reddit to realise they done fucked up and roll back some of those user-hostile changes. That takes advocacy and reminding people of the failings of the platform’s admins.
Yep, whenever I see those type of comments I always think to myself that they’re secretly pro-reddit and want to deter us from advertising Lemmy and other alternatives on Reddits BIGGEST attraction and putting the FUCK SPEZ where people WILL see it.
They just want people off of reddit. You don’t agree with the site, so you stop using it. If enough people do that, they lose money. Sure, there’s the argument you are advertising Lemmy to more users but anybody who has been paying attention for the last couple months already knows what Lemmy is.
Either they give a shit and have already switched over or they don’t give and won’t.
These posts pushing Lemmy are starting to remind me of shitcoin pump and dumps. My opinion is just disconnect from reddit and let Lemmy/kbin grow naturally. As long as it maintains consistent positive growth, it will be a beautiful thing in some years. There’s no need to spam reddit.
You don’t agree with the site, so you stop using it. If enough people do that, they lose money.
Maybe someone should tell them that’s never gonna happen, then? Because a lot of them seem to think the amount of protestors are more than enough to influence reddit traffic. I’m all for boycotting reddit (i was probably here earlier than most rexxitors - this is my 4th account due to looking for a good home instance), but stopping people from protesting is just wrong. Protesting doesn’t mean just boycotting.
let Lemmy/kbin grow naturally. As long as it maintains consistent positive growth, it will be a beautiful thing in some years.
As far as the Fediverse is concerned, I agree completely.
There’s no need to spam reddit.
There may be no need, but there certainly is a reason in some people’s minds.
I mean people can do whatever they want, I don’t care. Me personally I had a 14 year old reddit account that I scrubbed clean by editing over the thousands of comments with a script right before the API change date.
And I haven’t been back since. I don’t agree with reddit, so I’m not going to use reddit.
If people want to go on reddit and protest, go for it why not. I just think it’s a meaningless activity. It’s owned by a company that couldn’t care less about people protesting. The average redditor is also apathetic towards the cause. Reddit is not what it was 10 years ago.
Quite a lot of people just like scrolling through nonsensical shorts and staged garbage squeezed between sponsored posts and fake game ads. I don’t understand it but it’s what most people like to do. Look at Facebook, it’s still making money. Reddit’s doing the same formula. Killing third party apps was just part of penning people in.
That’s incredibly awesome. What a fantastic way to end it!
Honestly i’m sure this is the best thing that could happen for the reddit execs in terms of user engagement. Writing “fuck spez” on reddit is like shouting “save the planet” from a cruise ship.
I wrote about this elsewhere. Every post about Reddit or place has tons of comments like yours insisting that any engagement is good for Reddit. I disagree.
Reddit want dissenting users to leave! They have no interest in retaining it’s traditional userbase of cynical, lefty, tech-savvy users. They’re incredibly intolerant of advertising and difficult to monetise, and much of the reason why Reddit hasn’t made as much money as some of its competition.
They’d rather we all went elsewhere and left them with doomscrollng cryptobro memelords that don’t care if a post is a corporate shill or not, as long as it’s entertaining.
Sure, not engaging with their site reduced their numbers and thus value. But the number of users on Lemmy is a tiny fraction that I guarantee they’d be happy to lose if it made their userbase more tolerant of corporate bullshittery.
My goal isn’t to knock a fraction off their IPO valuation, it’s to bring other users and communities over to better platforms like this one. Or, perhaps, for Reddit to realise they done fucked up and roll back some of those user-hostile changes. That takes advocacy and reminding people of the failings of the platform’s admins.
This form of protest is valid and I support it.
Yep, whenever I see those type of comments I always think to myself that they’re secretly pro-reddit and want to deter us from advertising Lemmy and other alternatives on Reddits BIGGEST attraction and putting the FUCK SPEZ where people WILL see it.
I don’t think a foil hat is necessary
They just want people off of reddit. You don’t agree with the site, so you stop using it. If enough people do that, they lose money. Sure, there’s the argument you are advertising Lemmy to more users but anybody who has been paying attention for the last couple months already knows what Lemmy is.
Either they give a shit and have already switched over or they don’t give and won’t.
These posts pushing Lemmy are starting to remind me of shitcoin pump and dumps. My opinion is just disconnect from reddit and let Lemmy/kbin grow naturally. As long as it maintains consistent positive growth, it will be a beautiful thing in some years. There’s no need to spam reddit.
Maybe someone should tell them that’s never gonna happen, then? Because a lot of them seem to think the amount of protestors are more than enough to influence reddit traffic. I’m all for boycotting reddit (i was probably here earlier than most rexxitors - this is my 4th account due to looking for a good home instance), but stopping people from protesting is just wrong. Protesting doesn’t mean just boycotting.
As far as the Fediverse is concerned, I agree completely.
There may be no need, but there certainly is a reason in some people’s minds.
I mean people can do whatever they want, I don’t care. Me personally I had a 14 year old reddit account that I scrubbed clean by editing over the thousands of comments with a script right before the API change date.
And I haven’t been back since. I don’t agree with reddit, so I’m not going to use reddit.
If people want to go on reddit and protest, go for it why not. I just think it’s a meaningless activity. It’s owned by a company that couldn’t care less about people protesting. The average redditor is also apathetic towards the cause. Reddit is not what it was 10 years ago.
Quite a lot of people just like scrolling through nonsensical shorts and staged garbage squeezed between sponsored posts and fake game ads. I don’t understand it but it’s what most people like to do. Look at Facebook, it’s still making money. Reddit’s doing the same formula. Killing third party apps was just part of penning people in.
Permission to use this in the future for similar comments. With credit, of course. You explained it better than i ever could.
Sure!