Congrats, @Stamets.
I’m almost through my first watch of Discovery and I’m amazed at what I’m seeing. I’m happy to hear that character portrayals like this are getting the thumbs-up from the community.
I’ll throw in that, as a sensitive cis-het male myself, seeing emotionally in-touch authority figures like Saru and Pike make me feel seen. Older Trek shows just didn’t have that, with men oscillating between horny and angry as their entire emotional range. So it’s not just Stamets’ composite (and super wholesome) family. IMO, the writers are clearly trying to bring a better portrayal of humanity to the screen.
THANK YOU! Discovery gets a lot of flak from people for not portraying the typical Captains that we’ve had before but I’ve always thought that was the point. Also something to be celebrated. It’s nice seeing this crew as a family and not just a crew. Took a while to get there but after the events of Season 2 and the start of Season 3 it’d be hard for them not to get there.
I’m glad you’ve been enjoying the show, buddy. Hopefully my on screen counterpart has provided some laughs and good feels along the way as well. Equally as hopefully, you can see why he’s my favorite character on the show.
Disco stands out at the Star Trek series that really commits to queer representation rather than shoving it in the background and/or discarding it (looking at you, Picard and to a lesser extent LD). At the end of season 3 I was floored when Stamets described Adira as his child because I could definitely see the found family trope progressing and was mentally joking he should adopt them, I just didn’t expect it to pop up from subtext to text. It definitely feels like a more modern discussion of queerness than past series did.
…not sure how I feel about them destroy the subtlety of Trill as trans metaphors though. It’s cool, it just feels very heavy-handed.
probably the only parts of discovery I was disappointed about was Tilly captaining 😭
OMG I know! I loved every minute of it! I just finished Discovery tonight and the found family is my favorite thing about it. The only part that was a little shaky to me was the scene where Adira told everyone they wanted to use they/them pronouns. It felt a little forced, and a little voice inside me was like “aww it’s the distant future, is this still an uncomfortable topic?” And that thought made me kind of sad. But, as a way of presenting it to the audience of the current day, I guess it was fine.
Well shit, now I need to go catch up on discovery. I’m not even sure where I left off!
Gay or not, are there seriously people who would choose Discovery over TOS?!
Yeah. I’m a huge fan of both, and it’s early to tell - but I’m pretty sure I’m going to rewatch Discovery more than TOS.
Enjoy!
TOS really hasn’t aged well, but Discovery isn’t even up that low bar.
That´s how I feel about it too. TOS is old Star Trek with weaknesses typical for the time, especially the sexism is horrible. Discovery on the other hand does not even feel like Star Trek but more like anti-Star Trek made by people who hate Star Trek and is just an overall bad tv show. That is of course only my personal perception and I am happy for everyone who has a good time watching New trek stuff.
Aside from a handful of episodes, TOS aged perfectly fine.
You’d be hard pressed to find any show with as many episodes and different writers that doesn’t have a couple of shows with a bad take or two.
I don’t mean the political takes or anything, I meant more the super-stiff acting, the campy premises and the lacklustre “world building”, even though I dislike the term. All not the fault of the show at the time or anything, but I cannot enjoy any TOS rewatch these days.
Not arguing against TOS here but you should rewatch the TOS episode were Yeoman Rand get´s raped by evil Kirk and later get´s told by Spock that she probably liked it anyway. That scene made me as a dude who has never been raped feel shitty. I can only try to imagine how watching that scene would make a survivor of rape feel …
Dang dude your waited 60 years? You’re way older than i thought!
From campy 60s sci-fi written by a visionary, to upper class rich Hollywood writers’ idea of what’s “brave”? I feel more represented in the first one than in the high-fidelity America advertisement in the second picture. Not by much though, TOS hasn’t aged well.
DS9 is the pinnacle of queer Trek.
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