I’m really unnerved by it. What are the potential consequences?
There will be no fallout from it. Israel has too many ties to Europe and Americans for Iran to do anything about it.
One day I hope Israel will be held accountable for their actions but that day will not be until after we all are dead.
70/30 this is right. Too many in middle east are friends to US to side too hard with Iran. Only Russia is a strong enough ally to destroy Tel Aviv, but most of US approaches to Russia have involved US statements that “Russia agrees that Iran should never have nuclear weapons” which means it is their primary concern with Russia discussions, even though Russia never mentions it in their statements.
Tolerance for Israel seems high, and world seems to have bigger priorities.
Well, it could be really bad, or it might only be a little bit bad.
Israel has nuclear weapons, Iran has been trying to develop nuclear weapons and probably has them, and both sides believe God is on their side.
Meanwhile, God’s over here saying “Woah there guys, don’t bring ME in the middle of this. I told all y’all Thou shalt not kill.”
That’s glossing over the many times he tells people to kill each other.
Yeah, but those guys were real assholes.
Unfortunately no, there are a bunch of times in both the Torah and the Bible where God explicitly tells Israel to commit genocide, eg Amalek.
Honestly theres a path to WW3 here. But it could not be that serious. It would be interesting to see how the US cozies up to Russia while its ally is attacking their ally Iran.
We are already “in” ww3, except because the US and Israel and their allies are the bad guys, it’s not marketed as such.
I’m curious to learn your take on who the “good guys” are in this context.
I truly don’t think there are any except for working class factions trying to push back colonialism and genocide - and specifically regarding the US/Israel, the reason it’s not marketed as a world war is because there is documented proof they are doing the evil here.
I have to admit I was expecting some garbage take straight out of russian propaganda, but congrats on being reasonable I guess.
“Ain’t no war but class war, baby .”
Right it could either be a huge fuckin problem or life will just go on
“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked.
“Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”
History’s like that too. People took their best guesses, but nobody knew for sure.
Worst case, world war three. If enough other countries back Iran, they might retaliate in a way that triggers something like the nato treaty and you get some combination of countries compelled to do something, which could set off a series of conflicts that might spread.
More likely, some skirmishes and back and forth attacks happen, but nobody outside the region becomes involved directly.
Or, Iran could just posture and use it as political leverage to strengthen their position with allies and the various blocs around the world.
Obviously, there’s variants of those, and plenty of really unlikely options. But based on how iran has acted in the past and how little anyone is pressuring Israel currently, it doesn’t seem like it will escalate unless something else changes
It can’t trigger the NATO treaty, as neither Israel nor Iran are NATO members
That’s true enough, and that’s why I said that if Iran was backed by others and that retaliated in a way that might.
Let’s say Iran blames the UK, so they explode something there. Or one of their allies decides to pull fuckery in Germany.
That’s what I was talking about.
Edit: the relevant section
might retaliate in a way that triggers something like the nato treaty and you get some combination of countries compelled to do something, which could set off a series of conflicts that might spread.
See the multiple mights and coulds? And that it said something like the nato treaty, not specifically that treaty or only that one.
I’m kinda curious how all those italicized conditional terms and the “like” in there didn’t indicate the idea. There certainly wasn’t anything anywhere in it saying that Iran our Israel were members of NATO. So it’s confusing as hell how you got that as what I was saying
Sorry,I just understood it different and wanted to clarify. I didn’t mean to contradict you!
No worries, thank you for responding so quickly :)
Thanks that’s really easy to understand
Realistically I am less worried about a proper military to military engagement and more of an asymmetrical response.
They don’t need to have a nuclear program to do a dirty bomb or other similar attack on a civilian population. It doesn’t even have to be an official Iranian response directly, there are enough proxies around there that could fuck shit up for a lot of people.
As for the likelihood of this, its a crapshoot. Someone with more connections or experience can tell you that.
I dont think we know yet and that uncertainty isn’t making it any better
Ahhhh I see thanks
I honestly think Iran is too defanged to make a difference with escalation. Israel flexed their capability heavily and eliminated part of Iran’s C&C and a lot of their military and nuclear assets in one go, and they’re still continuing with strikes for any mop up.
It’s a win-win situation for them because they’ve got the US to defend them and they can go almost full force on whatever they deem a threat.
It might technically backfire for Netanyahu if Iran fails to mount any serious counteroffensive, at which point he won’t have any escalation path to stay in power, but it’s still a big win for Israel’s interests.
Also not related to the question, but this proves HTS in Syria is just another CIA project that will follow Washington’s demands no questions asked since they clearly allowed Israel to operate within their airspace.
Thanks mate. What do you think Netanyahu really wants?
There is literally a large land war in Europe with one side having large nuclear stoke pile…
Israel does these PR stunts every few months to distract peasants from the genocide.
Israel can’t do shit about Iran, even US would not be able to invade it without having to go into war economy.
This is just a circle jerk to hit some iranian assests and earnt Israel brownie points with Zionists in the US.
Probably it will escalate for a bit and then die down again. Iran has been attacking Israel through its proxies Hezbollah and Hamas for years. More recently after Israeli strikes they have sent waves of drones and missiles toward Israel. We’ll see another attack like that and then things will calm down.
Iran has been attacking Israel through its proxies Hezbollah and Hamas for years.
an interesting way to word this lol
Israel surely is a passive actor in the region, israel dindu nuffin, my goyim
I don’t think a passive actor at all, both Israel and Iran both back people and kill people, the scale is debatable though.
the language original comment used downplayed israeli agency and implied that hamas and hezbollah are merely iranian proxies, which removes their agency and glosses over the reason why they are hostile to israel.
even without iranian support they would do their work. also, don’t they get support from gulf arab states like UAE and Qatar?
I know Lindsey Graham is waiting to laugh at Gretta when she tries to go into Iran to feed whoever might be left. Maybe something like “oh I hope they know how to ride donkeys!” That’s what we can expect now from those politicians.
