How is someone that gets out of breath eating a donut going to protect and serve anyone?
Neither protecting or serving are actual job requirements.
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I think NPR or PBS can’t lie on the news or over the air public local news. The over the air news usually will have a PSA opinion piece and it’s usually by the owners and mostly sways right. Cable news is free for all and one sided.
This is a common misconception in the U.S., it’s not even the car’s job… that crappy sticker has the shittiest union.
That sticker was exclusive to the LAPD, but it kept turning up in films made in Hollywood set elsewhere, so other regions adopted it eventually too.
Man, that kind of figures… I bet it was a PR campaign that they paid for. So in a way we all got value out of that lie… nope. No satisfying conclusion to be found here 😒
Cops with guns don’t have to run… 🤷♂️
All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
You better run, better run outrun my gunWhy are people upvoting you for supporting school shooters?
It’s a song lyric and an indictment of America for our glorification of gun culture.
I know. Its not an indictment. Read the lyrics. And listen to the upbeat.
Ah, so you know more about the true meaning of the song than the writer himself.
Cities in pretty much the entire country are running with an understaffed police force. They’ll take what they can get. I’m 100% pro Union, but another problem is that police unions help protect unfit (literally and figuratively) police from being forced to try harder by abusing protected status health claims. I’ve seen in both police and military, they are handed paperwork if they are not meeting fitness expectations, but nothing ever comes of it.
“They’ll take what they can get.” Except for the smart ones. https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
…well shit. Too smart to be an officer is a thing.
Cities in pretty much the entire country are running with an understaffed police force.
Counterpoint: Americans are already overpoliced and the “understaffing” is only relative to the authoritarians’ desire to make us even more so.
Makes sense. Maybe they wouldn’t be understaffed if they were utilized in places that actually mattered to people
Additionally, cities that want physically fit officers have unions that demand that they are paid to work out. Cities don’t want to pay for that.
So, usually the fitness requirements are only used when applying but aren’t used when you are in the force.
cities that want physically fit officers have unions that demand that they are paid to work out
Seems fairly reasonable to me
understaffed my asshole
You’re really setting yourself up here
I…i didnt realize this needed staffing…
get to work
France doesn’t let the police unionize, it’s the only group in the country explicitly and expressly forbade from unionizing. Police should never be allowed to unionize
The only group that can’t unionize is the military, there’s plenty of police unions in France.
And they unionize a lot.
And they smell like far right a lot
You misunderstand. Cops in the US have no legal obligation to protect OR serve anyone. Check out the NY subway guy that was attacked with a knife while cops watched from 10 feet away behind bulletproof glass. They literally hid in the conductor booth and watched this guy get stabbed in the fucking face repeatedly.
Not only did the guy survive, he actually overpowered and subdued the attacker. Guy brought a suit against the NYPD for failing to protect him when their motto at the time was literally “Protect and serve”. Long story short, the end result is that he got a real live judge to say out loud that police have no actual duty to protect you when it could endanger themselves. Coupled with your observation on the obesity of American cops, it could be argued that walking down the street to issue a ticket could be lethal for the cop in question and therefore they have no obligation to do it, they simply choose to do it out of spite.
Reminds me of my favorite Simpson’s quote.
Marge (to Bart): “Your father wanted to be a police officer but they said he was too heavy.”
Homer: “No the army said I was too heavy, the police said I was too dumb.”
the police said I was too dumb.”
Well that sure didn’t age well!
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
Considering how dumb the police chief is on that show, I think it was an intentional joke
If he’s dumber than the police chief, then he’d be more qualified.
The point is that the police prefer dumb workers. They won’t hire you if you score too high on am IQ test
I understood their point. My point is that it was a one line throwaway gag on The Simpsons. Not necessarily a commentary on real world police hiring practices so much as a joke about both the police in that show and Homer.
I think once you pass the physical strength/endurance exam to become a cop, you don’t have to take any to remain one. I definitely think that should change, though. Make them pass once a year to retain their job.
Fuck the physical part, they should take yearly psychological exams and have continuous education on conflict resolution.
There are definitely agencies that do exactly what you described. The one I’m most familiar with has a sliding scale based on age and they are required to pass annually.
They don’t even have to pass those if they don’t want to. In portions of America it is just: win an election, appoint your friends and lackies.
A lot of departments use the admission tests to screen out candidates who might be overqualified: they specifically won’t want the best. An overwight blob is preferable to an in shape individual that might think before acting.
Never met anyone who was too fat to shoot minorities.
How is someone that gets out of breath eating a donut going to protect and serve anyone?
They don’t serve anyone
What? They definitely serve rich people. Why do you think they were created?
Or protect. They might protect those donuts tho.
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They are not required to serve and protect. US courts say so.
Our law enforcement is a huge joke and the meh pay, high turnover rate, and low bar of entry attracts the type of people you wouldn’t want to be associated with to begin with.
But also, why are small framed 5’3 women allowed to be police?
Fact is, most cops can’t outrun or overpower a lot of criminals who chose to resist or flee. In actuality that’s a pretty tiny part of the job. The rest is tickets, reports, paperwork, arrests with no resistance, investigations, etc. you don’t have to be an athlete or even very physically fit to do any of that. Id rather deal with a fat cop that isn’t a dick more than a slim one who’s a dumbass.
Non joke answer: A bunch of reasons. Many precincts are understaffed, so they need all the hands they can get. The police union is huge and makes it extremely difficult to fire even the most homer-simpsonian individuals. Many of the hugely obese cops are assigned to “light duty” meaning the most exertion they face is paperwork, manning the public information desk and or doing things like serving writs (in some cases you’re allowed to wear the uniformn even if you’re not a bonded officer, which is absurd). Additionally, fitness requirements are actually fairly rare across the whole spectrum of law enforcement - It’s surprisingly rare to see them for any positions besides uniformed patrol officer, even detectives or etc. aren’t always required to pass them - and even when you do, they’re usually pathetically easy to pass.
Heard from a local cop that it had something to do with the union. If the department wants to implement a standard the union would require something or other. Something about an incentive? I didn’t get the whole picture obviously. I know police need unions in case somebody sues them but does seem kind of dumb that it’s so difficult to enforce a physical standard.
Now I dont work in the law enforcement industry but I do work in an industry that has supposed fitness requirements although they arent enforced.
For us, the union told them “If they have to maintain a weight of X to remain employed. You have to pay them to hit the gym on company time or pay their gym fees and an allowance.” So the company filed that away under “fuck that”. Now if you get too fat for the equipment they just move you to a different duty, often one with a shitload of walking around.
It’s a fair enough requirement from the union
Backfired big time too.
Most of the big older guys realised that walking around all day is actually a pretty low pressure and laid back gig even if you are on your feet all day and dont want to go back on the machines once they are getting like 20,000 steps a day and lose the weight.
to protect and serve is not their job.
“protect and serve” is copaganda, since SCOTUS ruled on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia in late 1981. “Fun” animated video to describe same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfUI_hETy0
And this:
https://reason.com/2014/10/22/man-gets-stabbed-on-subway-guess-how-hel/Also used successfully as a precedent when the cowards waited in the hall while a shooter was on a rampage in a school a few years ago.
I think the subway stabbing is the main focus of the Cracked video I linked. But, maybe it’s a different subway stabbing.
It is, didn’t have time for a video.
Glad so many know these days what they are and do
Lookup Philip Brailsford. History of brutality, executed a pest control worker for doing his job with his own personal AR-15 engraved with “you’re fucked” on the side, there is full video evidence of the man crying and begging for his life on his knees with his hands on his head, Brailsford was rewarded for it with a full pension and an early retirement.
To protect and serve the rich
From what I’ve seen, they don’t even learn about the law and often break the law by illegal detainment, searches and confiscation. Cops who served for over 20 years but don’t know people their rights. They often get minimal training while having to serve alone where everyone carries a gun. That’s asking for problems. And now cops in the US are militarized with heavy combat gear, while the majority is white and racist. So obesity is the least of the problems with US police.
Why are they also so clearly low iq, and hyper violent?
and why are they paid so well?That’s by design.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
Paid to keep the poor in place between wars.
Police forces deliberately filter out intelligent people because A) the job is mostly really boring, and smart people don’t like boring jobs, and 2) Smart people won’t put up with the open racism, corruption, and general bullshit of cops.
Ever notice on the news, that the local police chief always sounds like a swaggering, arrogant dumbass? It’s because he was promoted from a professional gene pool that was compromised from the start. He’s was just the biggest arrogant swaggering dumbass out of big pool of arrogant swaggering dumbasses.
