• Akuchimoya@startrek.website
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    9 hours ago

    This is just one example of why Canada should not cozy up to China, as some have suggested in recent weeks. China is not an ally to Canada, to freedom, to democracy, or to human righta. We should never forget that their government held Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig hostage. That’s just what they’ve done to specific Canadians, they’ve done much worse to other people groups (Tibetans, Uighur) and their own citizens. As far as feasible, we should be avoiding China the way we are avoiding the USA. China is more enemy than friend.

  • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 hours ago

    Wow, that sucks. Canada is having a rough time of it with the current Chinese and US dictatorships. Hopefully we’ll do something about that in the US.

    🫶 🇨🇦 💪 🆙

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      2 hours ago

      While I agree with the sentiment in general, this is practically impossible in the foreseeable future. I think it’s time to turn the page on our relations with most of the world and drop the self-harming attempts to pressure this or that partner on moral grounds. Over the last little while it’s become clear that almost everyone is hypocrite of some degree and I don’t think anyone buys virtue signalling coming from us or anyone else anymore. I’m not saying that virtue signalling is always bad, I mean it in this context, especially when dealing with well established strong governments. Instead we should engage on material issues, and when possible frame moral issues as material based on their material impact, behind closed doors. Expecting that China, or Saudi Arabia, countries with different culture and history are going to get pressured into accepting our moral compass isn’t realistic and I think it’s conterproductive. Not to mention that their people may very well disagree with it, which means pressuring them to accept it could be anti-democratic. Do we know that Chinese people don’t want the death penalty? I know that I’m not reacting positively at the US pressuring Canada into accepting their views on some stuff.

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      11 hours ago

      You can train it on the USA prior “pressuring” China. You know, similar cultures. Should be easier, huh?