Norwegian fuel company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced it will cease supplying fuel to U.S. military forces in Norway and American ships docking in Norwegian ports, citing dissatisfaction with recent U.S. policy towards Ukraine.

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    Other countries, if you’re out there - follow suit. This flappy gum flexing shit we’re doing has got to stop. It’s gonna hurt, I’m sure. But until we’re neck deep into the “find out” phase, nothing is going to happen.

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      True! Then the company that no longer sells fuel to USA will make less profit when selling fuel to USA! What a punishment!

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    Feels almost unbelievable to hear that there still are people and companies standing up for their values and principles even in the face of losing profits or comfort. I thought that true western values had finally died and we were collapsing but this give a tiny sliver of hope at least.

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    Murican here. More of this please. We’ve swan-dived into some record setting ‘fuck around’, and desperately need a ‘find out’ that hurts enough to teach a lasting lesson.

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    Wonderful, it’s time people got the memo, America are not the good guys.

    I’m saying this as an American. I would love to see a world where America’s Government was viewed with suspicion when acting in international affairs instead of Europe looking up to them like the adult in the room. Europe, YOU, are the adult in the room.

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      Europe looking up to them like the adult in the room.

      We never did that though.

      The dynamic was more like the US is the big rich kid with all the toys who sometimes bullies the other kids so it’s better to have him on side.

      Now you’ve elected a couple of literal spoiled rich bullies it makes it all a lot more obvious.

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      As an European, I do not want this division. The world is safer having USA, Canada, and Europe as allies.

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        Then don’t do what we did, vote for progressives not Conservatives. Conservatives are a plague on society.

        Coming from an American who moved to Germany, Merz will pave the road to Germany’s Trump.

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          Incorrect. former Chancellor Merkel came from the same CDU Party as future Chancellor Merz. Merkel made 3 big mistakes, not controlling immigration, which gave the neo-Nazis more political power, entering the Afghanistan War and placing to much trust in Vlad Putin. However, she was skeptical of Orange Krasnov. Merz knows he cannot rely on the AmeriKans and they are in bed with Moscow giving each other golden showers. I usually vote for the SPD and sometimes CDU.

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            Idk what you’re saying is incorrect here. Conservatives are by and large Anti-Labor which means they are anti-80-90% of the population. Merkel began decommissioning nuclear plants and put more money towards oil, now we have an energy “crisis” that could have been entirely avoided. But conservatives are pro-oil when everyone in the world would benefit from being pro-green energy including nuclear power.

            Conservatives are by and large pro privatizing public functions. The German train network has the issues it has today partially because it’s not publicly owned and operated. Conservatives are anti-infrastructural spending and they tend to be budget conscious only when it benefits the Uber wealthy.

            Merz wants to complain about the fiscal budget but then wants to cut taxes for corporations. The CDU wants to fund that, last I checked, by cutting spending on welfare and social security nets. Conservatives want to take money from the sick, poor, and elderly and give it to big businesses and the only argument they have for why that could be a good thing is it could make the “economy better” and some of that money will trickle down.

            We are in the mess we are today because of conservative policies. Voting for the CDU is voting for the declination of society based on all the data I’ve seen. I’d love to see what an SPD government looks like when it’s not being sabotaged by the FDP but I worry, like in America, they’re still too centralist to be massively effective at reversing decline.

            Immigrants aren’t the problem. Germany needs more immigrants to stay functional in the coming decades, just like most developed countries.

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              +1 for you. However, how do you control the immigration so the AfD does not smell the blood? Same with the fucked up MAGA in AmeriKa. The German rail network should be Deutsche Bundesbahn, the federal government ran it better than the privatized DB AG BS.

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                I don’t know if controlling immigration is the problem or solution, right? It’s a scapegoat.

                I think the problem is perception. What should happen is when any media org talks about violent immigrants or violent crime they should be forced to display a graph of violent crime for the past 5 decades or something. Germany is in one of the top 3 or 5 safest years it has had in the last like 50 years.

                I’ve had German citizens warn me about the ghettos of Mannheim. These are stores without bars over their windows, plenty of people walking around at most hours of night, music and walk-in restaurants. This is no ghetto like in America. But natives see it as scary because humans are creatures of relativity.

                If anything Germany needs to provide a simple, clear path forward to permanent residence (at least) and ideally full citizenship. This tells people who are open to joining Germany that they have a path to starting a life here. Germany also need to provide a security net for those people if they run into problems on their journey to permanent residence (at least) so they know that this massive risk of moving abroad has a minimum amount of safety (cause a work force that feels trapped at their job is not a well compensated work force and everyone wants good paying jobs for themselves and their neighbors). I think Germany does a great job at both of these things already, the scary part is AFD wanting to differentiate between blood-line citizens and naturalized citizens. The scary part is CDU conservatives wanting to reduce the social safety net. The CDU winning hurts the influx of highly skilled or specialized immigrants because now they know the move just got more risky if conservatives get their way.

                As far as protecting their border or slowing the rate of immigrants in total or from certain areas… Idk honestly. I don’t know if that’s a real problem, I don’t think it is, and I don’t know how Germany could fix that. I have no doubt very smart people have several great solutions that are human-centric policies that improve the lives of everyone on both side of the fictional line - but I’m positive it’s not the policy conservatives will be pursuing. Because again, I don’t think it’s a real problem.

                Real problems are housing for everyone, higher wages for everyone, infrastructural improvement, improving education, better medicine and access to healthcare, etc etc. Germany and most developed countries are wealthy enough to handle their current level of immigration without issue - if the money is spent well instead of funneled into the parasitic 1%'ers pockets. Cultures and integration happen naturally over time, that isn’t a fear for me either.

                MAGA won because the economic decline outpaces the societal progress for too many decades, and the perceived solution was not based in reality. Germany has far more run way in the economic and societal race, but the influence on perception is both at a high in terms of strength and a low in terms of being attached to reality.

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      America has always been tolerated for political reasons. But noone in Europe has ever really looked up to the USA. You were useful to keep good relations with, (good in a fight). But you’ve always been regarded as loud, uncultured, and disturbingly patriotic. And honestly, if you look back at Europe’s history, we’re not exactly afraid of a fight.

      Stay the fuck out of Greenland and Canada, and come talk to us when you elect a grownup.

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        I tried, but honestly until we get rid of Gerrymandering, Republicans will have a foothold no matter how blatantly unpopular and universally reviled they are

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    Good.

    Fuck us

    Apparently we need the leopards to eat a lot more MAGA faces, fine by me. Better they should have full tummies before they hurt any more trans people.

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        A united Europe and an isolated America? Perhaps the latter part sure, but people who think what went down at the oval office is what Putin wanted I think are imagining too much. That was off-script, that messes up everyones plans, especially if Trump and/or Vance are indeed Russian assets. Russia very much intended on a terrible deal with Ukraine to be signed with Europe cheerily in step, now there is no deal so the fighting continues and Europe is united with Ukraine as though the war just started. And while I think China will do the smart thing and remain neutral, they could steal the spot of the number one global superpower if they united with Europe against Russia and USA (fat chance but just saying.)

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          Yeah, the ideal situation for Putin would be for Trump to betray Ukraine in such a way that still pays lip-service to their assumed role as defenders of democracy so that, while Europe might be pissed off, they don’t have quite the impetus they need to overcome the inertia the USA has built up over decades of trade and military alliances and openly oppose them.

          Trump has always been Putin’s useful idiot, but we’re seeing the “idiot” part overtake the “useful” part here.

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    “From this day forward, our country will flourish and be respected again all over the world.” - Donald Trump, Inauguration Day Jan 20 2025.

    So much respect.

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    This will continue (the whole of America suffering) until someone wrangles in Trump…

    … or he gets us into a major war we can’t win.

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        Yeah especially if he pisses off say military or oil contractors… ((Looks at the article this comment thread belongs to))

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          Yeah, I hope she stays in power long enough to make progress.

          Canada should be able to pull the UK right into the fight, and maybe France too. We’d need nuclear powers in our side to ever end a fucking war.

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            I mean, I wouldn’t be surprised if in my lifetime we end up with a unified world government that excludes literally just US and Russia. Israel would be excluded too except who the hell knows what’ll happen to the middle east after yet another world war.

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        What if Elon has already bought them all? It doesn’t take much for a jizzilionaire like him

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          His wealth is mostly imaginary. If he actually moved to solidify any significant portion of it, it would all collapse as its tied up in very few companies.

          When he was at a listed value of 200 billion he had to get 20-30 other groups and governments together for the whole twitter takeover. Which should have been easy for him at the time based on his net worth alone.

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            1. It’s always better to spend the money of others.
            2. It doesn’t appear that bribing congresspeople is all that expensive. IIRC, it only took $60k to bribe that one congressperson who got caught.
            3. Just the threat of financing primary challengers appears to be enough to control Republican congresspeople. He’s probably privately doing the same with some Dems too (offering not to finance challengers; he’s already said he will finance challengers to all Democrats).
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            It doesnt really matter if he can get 200 billion in cash right this instant. His theoretical net worth is enough to get him the influence and power that comes with that kind of money.

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              I am absolutely not saying that he can’t get enough money up to fuck everything up.

              But most of his wealth is Tesla stock. Recall that when he sold only $10 billion of it, the price tanked.

              He is only worth $200+ billion if you don’t look at it hard.

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          What if Elon has already bought them all? It doesn’t take much for a jizzilionaire like him

          If we’re going to “what if” why stop there? Why don’t we have Elon kidnapping them and implanting mind control devices in each of their heads. A person with those kind of resources and technology could do such a thing. /s

          If I was to take your point seriously, I would suggest the courts would have something to say about that, from lawsuits filed by civilians.

          The hyperbole really has to stop. You don’t go from a 0% authoritarianism to 100% in one day/step. Its a process, and we are not there yet (though I do definitely agree we’re starting to lean in that direction).

          This comment is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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      I heard that Warren Buffet bought stocks related to a serious war, like satellite-bassd radio… I am scared.

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      I doubt anyone really wants that, other than possibly the USA and Israel. I hope the rest of the world will curb our worst impulses, since we’re clearly refusing to do it, ourselves.