You know, DOGE, fascist president and corporations dictating what people can do, institutions being ruined, laws being ignored. Is there any way out of that or is it over? Is the USA done?

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    I hate to say it, but yes. Everything we’ve predicted from trump has come true thus far.

    The insurrection was predicted

    The migrant camps were predicted

    The ice raids were predicted

    Roe v Wade was predicted

    Selling Giving Ukraine to Russia was predicted

    Banning DEI was predicted

    The list goes on but more importantly these were all seen as hypothetical worst case scenarios. We should stop treating the next steps like they are hypothetical. America has fallen, and civil war is next.

    Former presidents at least recognized they had the responsibility to take care of both the people who voted for them and the people who didn’t. Trump only sees the people who voted for him and the people he needs to make an example of.

    I hate to say it, but the DNC is weak and won’t help us anymore. I supported Kamala like hell and believed that they could figure it out but they just don’t and won’t.

    I’m not a violent person. I hate the thought that I’d ever be forced into a situation where I need to either learn how to fight or die (because right now I’m SOL). I never wanted to find myself rooting for assassins and feeling like the world would be better off of certain people were dead. I’d rather believe the world would be better off if certain people were alive.

    But all I see in the future is a federal coup backed by sycophants in the Senate and supreme Court that then collides with the governors of blue states who won’t bend the knee.

    TL;Dr if we don’t go full dictator, we are going to civil war, and we deserve it.

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      Trump only sees the people who voted for him and the people he needs to make an example of

      Let’s not pretend like Trump gives a shit about the people who voted for him.

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        Very fair take.

        That said he’s not a full on idiot. MAGAts are useful tools for him, so he is more likely to try and make them happy, in some way. Currently the way to make them happy is to punish the left. In our post 9/11 USA, rage is what flips seats.

        W Bush won his second term because we were blind with rage after the attacks, and John Kerry didn’t run a counter rage campaign.

        Obama won because the financial crash enraged the left.

        Obama won his second term because Romney wasn’t able to stir up the needed rage.

        Trump won because he was the embodiment of rage.

        Biden won by the rage we had for Trump in the summer of 2020.

        Trump won again by running a campaign of rage vs Kamala who ran a “campaign of joy”.

        We are a country of 50 mini countries. All you need to do to win is generate enough rage to pit purple states against the states who won’t vote for you. So long as this country stands as it is, this is just how it’s going to be. Sadly any diplomatic fixes for this are pipe dreams now.

        The only way this will end is when the fire of rage consumes the whole system and burns it down. After that… I don’t know.

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      When has the DNC last helped us regular people? I abandoned that sclerotic. spineless, feckless, ineffectual organization over a decade ago.

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      we are going to civil war

      We’re going to finish the existing Civil War. We vaguely, slowly stopped the south from having slaves, they replaced them with undocumented migrants. We let them put up statues, fly their old flags. Name military bases after their traitorous generals.

      This has all been fucked up for over a century.

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        I wouldn’t call the last ~150 years a civil war at all. Civil wars are much worse than that.

        But your observation that the split was never fully healed is fully correct.

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        “What do you think is gonna happen in a civil war? You think the army, marines, and coast guard are all gonna be on the same side? What do you think happens in civil war, that half this nation is clammoring for? It’s police departments against military, military against government, people forming their own militias against the police force. It’s the randomness of killing.”

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          Well, things used to be geographically separated. Now it’s red versus blue in the blue is all in the cities. It’s not going to be armies, it’s going to be Vietnam. And it’s not going to be organized.

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      Whatever the Fed is now is going to be an existential threat to many people if it isn’t already. Governors will start picking sides I think. The Illinois governor made a pretty bold statement today.

      We have a surveillance state, though, and they control it and the narrative.

      People will need to get it together fast.

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        I live in Chicago now and I’m proud of our city for resisting so hard.

        With the ICE raids, Trump’s immigration thugs complained that Chicago is near impossible to work with because they are met with such fierce resistance. We’ve been prepped for how to deal with ICE, and Gov. Pritzker and Mayor Johnson have been helpful with that.

        The main complaint is that we all know our rights and ICE can’t just bulldoze through our city. Guess we’re the town of law and order 🤷

        Sorry NYC, your mayor is a chicken shit who would tattle on Anne Frank before the Nazis got to the door.