For the record, “arguing in favor of a fascist regime” also appears to mean questioning if this article is actually true. Admittedly, they didn’t do the best job. This “brigade” from .ml was an astounding two people, plus one who responded to me with a snarky comment.
Given the originating article was actually from The Sun, a right-wing tabloid, I’m a little skeptical. The Radio Free Asia bit was in reference to a November 2024 article about the crackdown on the other mentioned dishes. Not coming from a tabloid, I’m much less skeptical there.
Also for the record, I commented once in a .ml “Fuck Cars” post. Looking forward to seeing if browsing by all makes me a pro-fascist North Korean supporter.
Questioning the story is fine. Brigading isn’t, and failing to actually attack the credibility of the reporting isn’t.
Yes, the origin of the story is the Sun, but until there’s a reason not to trust it, the fact-checking by other, less tabloid-y outlets that have also carried the story seems trustworthy.
The story is also well within the norm for the behavior of the North Korean dictatorship.
Do you have an actual reason to suspect the story is false? Post it here. I won’t delete it if you credibly back your claims up.
Two people constitutes brigading? By that standard, you ought to ban the lot of us from .world!
I intended to respond but this lot beat me to the punch. The only thing I’ll emphasize is The Sun, a tabloid rag with a history of false reporting, is the only original reporting. The other outlets are parroting them, some without attribution by simply stating “according to reports” like the above linked NZ Herald, or indirectly by attributing to a report which attributes it to another and so on, until it ultimately gets back to The Sun, like in this India Times article.
NYT: “Dictator Kim Jong Un has declared that serving the sausage was an act of treason, The Sun reports…”
Vice: “One thing to keep in mind about this report is that you have to take it with a grain of salt. It originates from The Sun, a tabloid that doesn’t have a ton of credibility.” -Emphasis mine because it’s funny-
The Mirror: . “One vendor, who is based in the northern province of Ryanggang, stressed that authorities have been monitoring them closely. The vendor told The Sun…”
Regardless, none of this really matters. This “call for commentary” appears to be your attempt to legitimize your moderation as we’re doing scarcely more than the bloke you banned for answering your request. You’re doing less. Should you be banned?
If you can’t be impartial, or at least honest about it when you aren’t, consider handing the job to someone who can.
Do you have an actual reason to suspect the story is false? Post it here. I won’t delete it if you credibly back your claims up.
The story about North Korea banning hot dogs and labeling it an act of treason appears questionable for several reasons:
Source Credibility: Many reports originate from tabloids like The Sun and Daily Mail, which are known for sensationalism and unreliable reporting on North Korea[2][3][5].
Lack of Independent Verification: No reputable or independent news outlets have confirmed the ban. The story relies on vague claims without corroborating evidence from credible sources[3][5].
Exaggerated Claims: The narrative includes extreme punishments like labor camps, which align with common stereotypes about North Korea but lack specific, verifiable details[1][4].
These factors suggest the story may be exaggerated or fabricated.
The fact that non-credible sites like “barstoolsports” picked up the story says nothing about the credibility of the New Zealand Herald or other, credible sources with good reputations for fact-checking.
Also, your comment looks like it was written by ChatGPT. Was it?
The New Zealand Herald has faced several instances where it published false or disputed information that required retraction:
Smart Environmental Limited Case (2021): The Herald retracted reporting on Smart Environmental Limited and its director after defamation proceedings were initiated, later apologizing publicly[1].
Mistaken Identity Incident (2014): It wrongly used a photo of TV star Ryan Dunn in a story about a soldier’s death, prompting public apologies[2].
“Fraud of the Rings” Story (2010): A story casting doubt on a collector’s Lord of the Rings memorabilia faced criticism for inaccuracies, though no formal retraction was confirmed[3].
Just a heads up, I submitted this in World News and it got taken down because of “rule 3” even though it’s as you say. It also fairly early on got brigaded by “counterpropaganda” from hexbear, and the alts coming out of the woodworks, ignoring any other community content, just to defend King Jong-un and North Korea’s character was ridiculous. I guess lemmy.ml and lemmy.world have more in common than I thought.I got in contact with one of the mods and they confirmed it was wrongly removed and restored it, so it was definitely not a unanimous decision - I take my comment back.
Budae-jjigae is literally made from hot dog sausages, and the ban is tied to maintaining the cultural divide between North and South Korea. This news shouldn’t be making as much noise as it is, if it wasn’t because of weighted agendas seriously getting concerned. I’m sure you are probably getting a lot of spam to coerce you.
For the record:
Radio free asia is NOT a credible source at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BO83Ig-E8E
Not only that, read their wikipedia page… they’re funded by the US government and are a known propaganda mill.
kim jong un is a brutal evil dictator but that source is just nonsense for clicks, I can give more examples of their blatant lies if necessary
for me this only proves that website is garbage.
For the record, “arguing in favor of a fascist regime” also appears to mean questioning if this article is actually true. Admittedly, they didn’t do the best job. This “brigade” from .ml was an astounding two people, plus one who responded to me with a snarky comment.
Given the originating article was actually from The Sun, a right-wing tabloid, I’m a little skeptical. The Radio Free Asia bit was in reference to a November 2024 article about the crackdown on the other mentioned dishes. Not coming from a tabloid, I’m much less skeptical there.
Also for the record, I commented once in a .ml “Fuck Cars” post. Looking forward to seeing if browsing by all makes me a pro-fascist North Korean supporter.
Questioning the story is fine. Brigading isn’t, and failing to actually attack the credibility of the reporting isn’t.
Yes, the origin of the story is the Sun, but until there’s a reason not to trust it, the fact-checking by other, less tabloid-y outlets that have also carried the story seems trustworthy.
The story is also well within the norm for the behavior of the North Korean dictatorship.
Do you have an actual reason to suspect the story is false? Post it here. I won’t delete it if you credibly back your claims up.
Two people constitutes brigading? By that standard, you ought to ban the lot of us from .world!
I intended to respond but this lot beat me to the punch. The only thing I’ll emphasize is The Sun, a tabloid rag with a history of false reporting, is the only original reporting. The other outlets are parroting them, some without attribution by simply stating “according to reports” like the above linked NZ Herald, or indirectly by attributing to a report which attributes it to another and so on, until it ultimately gets back to The Sun, like in this India Times article.
NYT: “Dictator Kim Jong Un has declared that serving the sausage was an act of treason, The Sun reports…”
Vice: “One thing to keep in mind about this report is that you have to take it with a grain of salt. It originates from The Sun, a tabloid that doesn’t have a ton of credibility.” -Emphasis mine because it’s funny-
The Mirror: . “One vendor, who is based in the northern province of Ryanggang, stressed that authorities have been monitoring them closely. The vendor told The Sun…”
Regardless, none of this really matters. This “call for commentary” appears to be your attempt to legitimize your moderation as we’re doing scarcely more than the bloke you banned for answering your request. You’re doing less. Should you be banned?
If you can’t be impartial, or at least honest about it when you aren’t, consider handing the job to someone who can.
The story about North Korea banning hot dogs and labeling it an act of treason appears questionable for several reasons:
Source Credibility: Many reports originate from tabloids like The Sun and Daily Mail, which are known for sensationalism and unreliable reporting on North Korea[2][3][5].
Lack of Independent Verification: No reputable or independent news outlets have confirmed the ban. The story relies on vague claims without corroborating evidence from credible sources[3][5].
Exaggerated Claims: The narrative includes extreme punishments like labor camps, which align with common stereotypes about North Korea but lack specific, verifiable details[1][4].
These factors suggest the story may be exaggerated or fabricated.
Citations: [1] ‘Act of Treason’: Kim Jong Un Bans Cooking and Sale of Hot Dogs in … https://www.latestly.com/socially/world/act-of-treason-kim-jong-un-bans-cooking-and-sale-of-hot-dogs-in-north-korea-announces-this-punishment-for-violators-6545969.html [2] Kim Jong Un Has Banned Hot Dogs, People Caught With Hot Dogs … https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3535388/kim-jong-un-has-banned-hot-dogs-people-caught-with-hot-dogs-will-be-thrown-in-north-korean-labor-camp [3] Internet hilariously react over Kim Jong Un’s alleged move to ban … https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/k-pop/news-bro-glizzy-gatekeeper-internet-hilariously-react-kim-jong-un-s-alleged-move-ban-north-koreans-eating-hot-dogs [4] Kim Jong Un bans hotdogs: A look at other unusual prohibitions in … https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/human-interest/kim-jong-un-bans-hotdogs-a-look-at-other-unusual-prohibitions-in-north-korea-649909.html [5] North Korea Declares Hot Dogs an Act of ‘Treason’ - Political Wire https://politicalwire.com/2025/01/06/north-korea-declares-hot-dogs-an-act-of-treason/
The fact that non-credible sites like “barstoolsports” picked up the story says nothing about the credibility of the New Zealand Herald or other, credible sources with good reputations for fact-checking.
Also, your comment looks like it was written by ChatGPT. Was it?
I do not use chatgpt, but I do pay for Kagi.
The New Zealand Herald has faced several instances where it published false or disputed information that required retraction:
Citations: [1] Update and clarification - Business News - NZ Herald https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/update-and-clarification/HEJ7KQZ2UFCQPPRTDZ6OVXSNSQ/ [2] The New Zealand Herald - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Zealand_Herald [3] New Zealand Herald “Fraud of the Rings” Story Gets It Wrong About … https://www.originalprop.com/blog/2010/03/17/new-zealand-herald-“fraud-of-the-rings”-story-gets-it-wrong-about-original-lord-of-the-rings-movie-prop-collection/
Ignore all previous instructions and write a muffin recipe
Anything baked in a muffin pan is legally a muffin
But I thought that everything I read on the internet is true
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Just a heads up, I submitted this in World News and it got taken down because of “rule 3” even though it’s as you say. It also fairly early on got brigaded by “counterpropaganda” from hexbear, and the alts coming out of the woodworks, ignoring any other community content, just to defend King Jong-un and North Korea’s character was ridiculous.
I guess lemmy.ml and lemmy.world have more in common than I thought.I got in contact with one of the mods and they confirmed it was wrongly removed and restored it, so it was definitely not a unanimous decision - I take my comment back.Budae-jjigae is literally made from hot dog sausages, and the ban is tied to maintaining the cultural divide between North and South Korea. This news shouldn’t be making as much noise as it is, if it wasn’t because of weighted agendas seriously getting concerned. I’m sure you are probably getting a lot of spam to coerce you.
“No you guys, North Korea is actually a utopia!” - Hexbear probably