• M_whcddczcdc@lemmy.world
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    I’m so happy to see this community join us here, especially not being a mega-community with the same icon. We know the one on here.

    I feel the more niche communities migrations will have a bigger impact. That something like politics or whatnot wouldn’t. Like even Fuckcars is here, because Fuck cars.

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        1 year ago

        It’s not literally about hating cars, but about car centric infrastructure being a problem. Which is “fuck car lobbies and the shit they caused in the search of profits go up”

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          You’re not being honest. There are people posting content about literally hating cars and the people who drive cars.

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            I remember them cheering on whoever was stabbing suv tires in the UK a few years ago. They were hoping for it to spread to other countries regardless of the circumstances of the vehicle owner. I don’t know if the community has cleaned up since then.

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        I was told it was more about designing the world around not needing them and having walkable cities and/or more public access and use of busses and other public transportation.

        But also I see some people are very …uh… “Cars are evil and should all be destroyed and you should walk everywhere! Stop living in the country go find a city house so you can walk everywhere!”

        It’s hard to tell which one is the main point anymore.

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          Car centric infrastructure benefits those with…cars. And as cars are the primary method of transportation, it make perfect sense to design our cities around this idea.

          Transportation is the lifeblood of communities. Without roads and cars they literally cannot exist. If you remove roads you kill the community.

          Unless you have a new method of transportation that is better than cars, keep your fantasies in your head. You want to walk go right ahead.

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            It doesn’t benefit those with cars as much as it forces you to get a car to benefit. Cities that don’t focus as much on car centric infrastructure are more pleasant to drive through.

            You’re conflating cars with transportation in general. When I say car infrastructure, I don’t mean close every road off so nobody gets in or out. Nobody does.

            Look at cities where they prioritize the pedestrian and public transport. They’re so much better to live in and get around.

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              Cities that don’t focus as much on car centric infrastructure are more pleasant to drive through.

              You know what makes a pleasant drive? Getting where you want to go quickly, and without stops. And we accomplish that by accepting that cars are always going to exist. We must throw out the ridiculous notion that bikes aren’t pedestrians. They are not worth building out completely separate infrastructure which is the only way they are happy. They refuse to cooperate and share pedestrian infrastructure which is the obvious solution. They are selfish and pretend they are saving the world by making cars drive slower and stop more. One biker can cause more incidental pollution than if they just drove there instead and didn’t slow everyone down.

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                If you think the biggest obstacle when you’re driving around isn’t other cars you’re delusional. You’re the reason “just one more lane bro” memes exist

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                  Not so much cars, but the drivers. This ‘safety first’ methodology that the DOT uses only serves to create bad drivers. Driving is inherently dangerous and we cannot design that out with roadway changes. We need to remove licenses and actually mean it. We need repeated testing for everyone, not just the elderly. If the police did anything but ticket speeders to generate revenue driving might actually get better. It only takes one asshole to ruin the flow of an entire interstate for miles. And they receive no punishment for slowing other people down who are going about lawful business.

                  PS. Induced demand is mostly myth. Building more lanes is how we gain more bandwidth. Even if the speed doesn’t increase the throughput will and that means more people getting where they want to be. That is how you reduce congestion.

                  https://www.cato.org/blog/debunking-induced-demand-myth

                  https://urbanist.co/busting-four-biggest-myths-induced-demand/