This is a genuine question.

I have a hard time with this. My righteous side wants him to face an appropriate sentence, but my pessimistic side thinks this might have set a great example for CEOs to always maintain a level of humanity or face unforseen consequences.

P.S. this topic is highly controversial and I want actual opinions so let’s be civil.

And if you’re a mod, delete this if the post is inappropriate or if it gets too heated.

  • mke_geek@lemm.ee
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    17 days ago

    The murderer of that innocent man needs to be brought to justice.

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      You mean the man who’s company let sick people die by denying proper healthcare, all for the sake of profits? That innocent man? Do not turn this guy in.

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          Because crimes should be handled in a criminal court case with real consequences, not a civil case. But that’s not likely to happen.

          So if someone did sue them, and against all odds they won, and the money they received somehow properly compensated for their loss (i.e. a loved ones preventable death), then the company that extracts billions of dollars from Americans every year would lose a couple million. The company would be unaffected and have no meaningful consequences for their willfully unethical behavior. We’d have to have thousands of successful lawsuits to have meaningful consequences.

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        17 days ago

        By your logic everyone who works any job deserves to die. Your logic is not logical.

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          That’s not implied by their logic at all. Not every person is in a position of power like this CEO was, the majority of people don’t have a job that denies people necessary healthcare, and many people will not make the choice to be unethical like this CEO chose.

          I understand, and disagree with, the argument that vigilante justice is completely uncalled for but you’re not doing your argument justice here

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            17 days ago

            Murder is not justified for someone working a job people don’t like.

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          If someone’s job is to cause death and suffering and they profit from it then yeah maybe they should face the same.

          Calling what this guy did for a living “just a job” is absurd.

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            17 days ago

            It’s not his job to cause death. It was his job to run a company.

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              A company where the stated objective was to prioritize profit at the cost of human life. That’s a job to cause death.

              The people working for that company are not likely to be in a position to quit over ethical issues, as they are trying to feed their families, but the CEO of that company made decisions that directly impacted other people lives and likely killed many. If he didn’t want to deny claims for care, he could have resigned. Instead, he profited.

              His job was to cause death. As is the job of all for-profit health care companies.

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                17 days ago

                You could say the same thing about a manager at McDonald’s. They don’t deserve to die.

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            17 days ago

            It makes sense. He worked a job, other people work a job. Same thing.

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                16 days ago

                Just Someone who does not believe that people should be gunned down for no reason.

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                    15 days ago

                    He was gunned down because the person who assassinated him didn’t like him.

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                  What would you consider “a reason” then? The man had plenty of reasons.

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              “I can’t believe they threw me in jail. I pulled a trigger on a gun and shot someone. But other people pull triggers on nail guns all the time and don’t go to jail! It’s the same thing!”

              That’s you right now. Two things can be described by the same action but have very different effects, both morally and legally.

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              Not all jobs are equal: not in pay, not in proximity to the people who actually carry out the orders of Leadership, not in consequences, not in collaboration with others.

              For example, Biden has the authority to stop the transfer of arms to Israel, even after Congress has approved of it. That decision would have much greater impacts on Israel’s ability to carry out their genocide on the Palestinian people.

              A McDonald’s manager has no say in weather those arms make it to Israel or not.

              Different positions call for different levels of ethical consideration. Maybe the United Healthcare CEO should have considered ethics and morals more when he decided to prioritize profit over human lives.

              Consequently, you could also make the same diagnosis for Biden because this whole Israel thing is nuking his legacy.

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      I would have agreed if u would have said murderer of that man saying he is innocent just make you seem ignorant of the meaning of that word.

      The strapping young man deserves the same justice as the marine from Seal Team six who killed Osama.

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      In a perfect world, where all criminals white or blue are brought to justice under the same hammer, you would have a point and my heart.

      But the world is not just; you know that, I know that, they know that.

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        Do people who work at any company and get murdered should have their killers celebrated? It’s the same thing.

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          that’s the hot part… it aint…

          wage slave is not the same thing as an officer of a coporation, if you ever worked for a corporation, you would know this.

          They get nice office, jets, they don’t have to really work. They build relationships.

          The working people you know… work.

          how naive are you?

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            Because he worked at a job and other people work at a job. Same thing.

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              You are a mindless zombies.

              Please tell me you’re not trolling, and have an actual working brain to understand your idiocy.

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              So are threatening someone’s life and casual small talk the same thing? They’re both talking. What about driving down the road vs running someone over? Or shooting a target vs shooting a person? They’re both shooting. Same thing.

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      Yo bro are you a ceo? Are you related to the dude that got got? Your hard on for “justice” for the ceo is really weird

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      Do the smart thing, instead of arguing with people who think premeditated homicide can be justified just take advantage of these posts to block those people. Lemmy doesn’t have that big of a community so if you actually take the time to block them you’ll see a lot less of extremist brainwashed people in your feed

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          Soooo many accounts blocked the last few days. Bad things can happen to bad people without frothing at the mouth and going full bloodlust, but so many people here seem incapable of that.

          I get it, the victim could not be any more unsympathetic. But the responses here are beyond sickening. Thank you for being level headed; I appreciate you.

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            Yes, I cannot believe how many people would like to see those they don’t like just gunned down in cold blood. What is next? You don’t like the homeless person on the corner so you just shoot them in the head?