I am hanging on to my 1080p Samsung for dear life. It is about 12 years old, but the picture quality is still fantastic with LED backlighting and it has – get this – no smart “features”.
Someone a while back on a thread not dissimilar from this one suggested looking into commercial display screens. A kind of BYO solution to the smart TV problems.
I feel the exact same way about my 42" 1080 Sony Bravia. It’s heavy as fuck, so I had to hang it on the burliest monitor arm I could find, but it was built like a tank and the picture quality is still great. Bonus - since it’s not a flat panel, the built-in speakers are more than decent.
I don’t know about new ones, but you’re right older Bravias are built like tanks. I got a 40" LED that’s, uh, more than 15 years old now. Survived 5 rental moves, covered in nothing but cling wrap and chucked at the back of me car.
I have no idea what to do when it eventually breaks…
My 1080p plasma is still going strong. Sure there’s burn in but it’s had it since I got it and it’s a real big dumb tv. Dreading moving the monstrosity across the country, but it was the perfect price and I don’t want to drop a ton of money on a new tv during a time of uncertainty.
I will say my oled steam deck has made me want a better tv, but I can wait for it.
I have been surprised at how good some of the early LED backlighting can look versus OLED. My understanding is that the backlight in dark areas on my Samsung can be shut off independently area by area, so while the black point isn’t as dark as an OLED, it is way darker than on a lot of other displays I have seen. So it’s a good example of good enough for me.
What does it matter? Unless you’re going back to cable you’ll have to get a “smart” something or other and the “smart” ones always let you pass through the signal anyway so you might as well not deal with all the wires.
…all what wires? Back to cable? Not sure what you are referring to. I have a single HDMI cable plugged in to a dumb TV from a computer I control. All content comes in through that (with the benefit of things like ad blocking).
Smart TVs have features designed in part to collect data on you and facilitate things like serving you ads. Why would I want that as opposed to a TV without such “features”?
It wouldn’t be an issue if the industry still offered dumb TVs, but by and large, they don’t (for good reason – they can profit off of the collected data).
Generally yes, but as that gains popularity, the industry will look elsewhere to get their connection.
The world is bathed in cellular data networks and WiFi. I’d suggest that we aren’t that far off from TVs that are connected without your knowledge.
And even if you find that tinfoil-hattish, the key point is: having the hardware in your house to begin with is a security risk. Why must I buy a TV with a camera in it when I literally have no personal use case for a camera in my TV?
I am hanging on to my 1080p Samsung for dear life. It is about 12 years old, but the picture quality is still fantastic with LED backlighting and it has – get this – no smart “features”.
I just want a big monitor. just display the pixels and I’ll be happy
Someone a while back on a thread not dissimilar from this one suggested looking into commercial display screens. A kind of BYO solution to the smart TV problems.
I feel the exact same way about my 42" 1080 Sony Bravia. It’s heavy as fuck, so I had to hang it on the burliest monitor arm I could find, but it was built like a tank and the picture quality is still great. Bonus - since it’s not a flat panel, the built-in speakers are more than decent.
I don’t know about new ones, but you’re right older Bravias are built like tanks. I got a 40" LED that’s, uh, more than 15 years old now. Survived 5 rental moves, covered in nothing but cling wrap and chucked at the back of me car.
I have no idea what to do when it eventually breaks…
I still got mine too, 32" bought in 2012 with my PS3 then. That thing is indestructible, survived 4 years in the army and 3 moves.
My Samsung is a 40". I definitely wish it was bigger but not enough to jump into the smart TV soup.
My 1080p plasma is still going strong. Sure there’s burn in but it’s had it since I got it and it’s a real big dumb tv. Dreading moving the monstrosity across the country, but it was the perfect price and I don’t want to drop a ton of money on a new tv during a time of uncertainty.
I will say my oled steam deck has made me want a better tv, but I can wait for it.
I have been surprised at how good some of the early LED backlighting can look versus OLED. My understanding is that the backlight in dark areas on my Samsung can be shut off independently area by area, so while the black point isn’t as dark as an OLED, it is way darker than on a lot of other displays I have seen. So it’s a good example of good enough for me.
What does it matter? Unless you’re going back to cable you’ll have to get a “smart” something or other and the “smart” ones always let you pass through the signal anyway so you might as well not deal with all the wires.
…all what wires? Back to cable? Not sure what you are referring to. I have a single HDMI cable plugged in to a dumb TV from a computer I control. All content comes in through that (with the benefit of things like ad blocking).
Smart TVs have features designed in part to collect data on you and facilitate things like serving you ads. Why would I want that as opposed to a TV without such “features”?
It wouldn’t be an issue if the industry still offered dumb TVs, but by and large, they don’t (for good reason – they can profit off of the collected data).
You can just not connect it to the internet
Generally yes, but as that gains popularity, the industry will look elsewhere to get their connection.
The world is bathed in cellular data networks and WiFi. I’d suggest that we aren’t that far off from TVs that are connected without your knowledge.
And even if you find that tinfoil-hattish, the key point is: having the hardware in your house to begin with is a security risk. Why must I buy a TV with a camera in it when I literally have no personal use case for a camera in my TV?
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