It wouldn’t just be unpolished if they rushed it that much. Thier development cycles are still about the same length as other companies, even despite the lack of polish.
You’re saying that like there’s one Bethesda game. I hate how banal Starfield is. I really don’t like how FO4 isn’t an RPG, though it’s a good platform for content. Skyrim is pretty good with boring quests, especially the main quest. Oblivion is fairly good, though it started the trend of dumbing things down. Morrowind is spectacular. It gives players tools to play with and freedom to figure them out. The writing is generally fantastic. The world feels like it was a world and not a theme park.
I love Bethesda games. I hate the direction they’ve been heading for a long time. I doubt that’s going to change, but it certainly won’t if people keep quite about it.
I like most of their games. Starfield is the one where I don’t think it’s got anything worth playing because it’s all so disconnected and the writing is horrible.
I would say I love Morrowind, FO3, and Oblivion. Essentially, I like the games that give the player systems to play with, not ones that hold your hand and have a specific way they want them to be played.
Plus they made a fuckton on new fo4 purchases when show released for zero additional cost. Steam had a killer sale for all the fallout games when the show released. Seems like no brainer especially because you never know if a show will be a hit. Look at Witcher, it never really caught on to the larger market outside of its already existing fans.
Idk. I’m the only nerd out of my family and friends and a bunch of them watched and loved the fallout show. Including my parents who are 60 years old and haven’t played an “idiot games,” what my mom calls video games, since Robotron lol.
my FIL was super excited for the fallout show and spent a bunch of our last visit explaining the premise of fallout to me. been playing since like 2008 or something lol
fo4 is basically free. i got into it a few years ago, quite late, and paid like 10 bucks for the whole thing with all the DLCs on xbox and like 4$ on steam
much of a game’s development time is spent creating assets, using a new engine doesn’t mean your existing low fidelity assets suddenly look better, just better lit
Eh, a lot of it also has to do with designing things, not the producing assets. If you’re just doing a remaster and upgrading assets that already exist, it should take a lot less time than building something from scratch.
that’s just simply not true. if you look at the project lifecycle for a game very little resources are spent in preproduction, the bulk of the time is in production. preproduction usually has all of the core mechanics and ideas implemented by the end, then it’s just about executing on that plan. there’s not a lot of experimentation and iteration once you are in full tilt production mode
I’m not saying “game design,” but things like deciding on art style, optimizing balance between fidelity and performance, etc. AFAIK, that’s all “production” stage things. Assuming it’s the same studio as built it the first time, they’ll still have the original artwork, which probably just needs to be touched up and reexported. That’s a lot less work than building something new from scratch.
In fact, you probably need minimal assistance from developers since all the gameplay elements are already there, you’d just need a small group for making some tweaks here and there to keep consistent performance, and maybe add in a little bit of fanciness here and there (e.g. tweak shadows, maybe some RTX if you go crazy). None of that is particularly time-consuming for a developer to throw in, so once the art team is done freshening up the assets, they can prep for release.
I’m thinking a project like that could be completed in 2-3 years, depending on which game they pick and how far they want to take the remaster. That’s definitely in line with the timeline for a TV show.
Probably the best we’d get for story DLCs would be for FO4 or 76 because there’s absolutely no way they’d create new content for a game over a decade old that isn’t Skyrim or the latest entry in another series of theirs that is either fallout or fallout or fallout.
These Bethesda open world games take a LONG time to make. Even if they knew it was going to be made 7 years from now, there’s no guarantee it will be good or that it won’t be shelved. It’s better to just go at your own pace.
He’s right. If they’d rushed to get a game out in time for the show it would have been a piece of shit and eroded the brand.
Bethesda, a company with an otherwise unbesmirched reputation for polish.
It wouldn’t just be unpolished if they rushed it that much. Thier development cycles are still about the same length as other companies, even despite the lack of polish.
Yeah imagine how shitty the game would be if it was actually rushed
This is such a circle jerk. You don’t like Bethesda games? Who cares. Move on. Lots of people love em
I hate Elden Ring. But I don’t go on Elden Ring communities just to shit on it
You’re saying that like there’s one Bethesda game. I hate how banal Starfield is. I really don’t like how FO4 isn’t an RPG, though it’s a good platform for content. Skyrim is pretty good with boring quests, especially the main quest. Oblivion is fairly good, though it started the trend of dumbing things down. Morrowind is spectacular. It gives players tools to play with and freedom to figure them out. The writing is generally fantastic. The world feels like it was a world and not a theme park.
I love Bethesda games. I hate the direction they’ve been heading for a long time. I doubt that’s going to change, but it certainly won’t if people keep quite about it.
It sounds like you love one Bethesda game that came out 22 years ago
I like most of their games. Starfield is the one where I don’t think it’s got anything worth playing because it’s all so disconnected and the writing is horrible.
I would say I love Morrowind, FO3, and Oblivion. Essentially, I like the games that give the player systems to play with, not ones that hold your hand and have a specific way they want them to be played.
People dont like Bethesda. The games are alright.
Plus they made a fuckton on new fo4 purchases when show released for zero additional cost. Steam had a killer sale for all the fallout games when the show released. Seems like no brainer especially because you never know if a show will be a hit. Look at Witcher, it never really caught on to the larger market outside of its already existing fans.
I have a feeling the Fallout show is quite similar in terms of not being popular outside of people who already like that particular universe.
Idk. I’m the only nerd out of my family and friends and a bunch of them watched and loved the fallout show. Including my parents who are 60 years old and haven’t played an “idiot games,” what my mom calls video games, since Robotron lol.
my FIL was super excited for the fallout show and spent a bunch of our last visit explaining the premise of fallout to me. been playing since like 2008 or something lol
fo4 is basically free. i got into it a few years ago, quite late, and paid like 10 bucks for the whole thing with all the DLCs on xbox and like 4$ on steam
Damn if only they could have somehow knew the show was being made in advance…
Fallout 4 took 7 years to develop and still felt rushed. Exactly how far in advance do you think they knew about the show?
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Any of those could’ve been done in the time they’d know about the FO show release target.
They did do that. It was called Starfield.
much of a game’s development time is spent creating assets, using a new engine doesn’t mean your existing low fidelity assets suddenly look better, just better lit
Eh, a lot of it also has to do with designing things, not the producing assets. If you’re just doing a remaster and upgrading assets that already exist, it should take a lot less time than building something from scratch.
that’s just simply not true. if you look at the project lifecycle for a game very little resources are spent in preproduction, the bulk of the time is in production. preproduction usually has all of the core mechanics and ideas implemented by the end, then it’s just about executing on that plan. there’s not a lot of experimentation and iteration once you are in full tilt production mode
I’m not saying “game design,” but things like deciding on art style, optimizing balance between fidelity and performance, etc. AFAIK, that’s all “production” stage things. Assuming it’s the same studio as built it the first time, they’ll still have the original artwork, which probably just needs to be touched up and reexported. That’s a lot less work than building something new from scratch.
In fact, you probably need minimal assistance from developers since all the gameplay elements are already there, you’d just need a small group for making some tweaks here and there to keep consistent performance, and maybe add in a little bit of fanciness here and there (e.g. tweak shadows, maybe some RTX if you go crazy). None of that is particularly time-consuming for a developer to throw in, so once the art team is done freshening up the assets, they can prep for release.
I’m thinking a project like that could be completed in 2-3 years, depending on which game they pick and how far they want to take the remaster. That’s definitely in line with the timeline for a TV show.
Probably the best we’d get for story DLCs would be for FO4 or 76 because there’s absolutely no way they’d create new content for a game over a decade old that isn’t Skyrim or the latest entry in another series of theirs that is either fallout or fallout or fallout.
These Bethesda open world games take a LONG time to make. Even if they knew it was going to be made 7 years from now, there’s no guarantee it will be good or that it won’t be shelved. It’s better to just go at your own pace.
It’s not the open world takes them so long, it’s the expert writing and amazing animations!
And the amazing variety of points of interests and quests!
You can have literally dozens of combinations!
(Still salty about Starfield, don’t mind me.)
I will play fallout four until I die and I was very disappointed in Starfield, also.
i just want more FO4 content or another FO4 maybe with optional multiplayer