• misk@sopuli.xyzOP
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    30 days ago

    License seems to be quite permissive, isn’t it? I specifically checked. Unless you mean strict copyleft.

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      Custom license, not free for commercial use. Assets are still proprietary. https://github.com/flibitijibibo/RogueLegacy1/blob/main/LICENSE.md

      I guess the main benefactor will be the modding scene. Indie devs can make deals with Cellar Door Studios to get a commercial licence with additional conditions. It might be close to open source in practice if the commercial licences are handed out generously.

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        Sounds reasonable for a game’s source code to me, I don’t see anyone claiming it’s “open source”

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        Regarding the proprietary assets, I used to give it some thought, and came to a conclusion that other than selling consultance services, selling assets is the only way to make money while creating something open source. That’s why now I don’t find proprietary assets to be something bad.

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      Just to clarify, licenses are free software or open source when they fit the definition of those terms, aka the 4 freedoms and whatever open source requires, but both require being able to use the software without restrictions. So this isnt open source.

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        29 days ago

        This is an opinion which is not universally shared. Even Stallman doesn’t agree with this definition.

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          Anyone who disagrees ought to go get their own term rather than appropriating “Open Source” and/or “Free Software”.

          I’ve heard “source available” used.

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            “free software” very clearly means some software you can use for free (which this isn’t), but “open source” very clearly means openly accessible source code, which this is.

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              “Free Software” very clearly means this, and “Open Source” very clearly means this.

              Again, get your own terms. “Freeware” and “source available” are just sitting right there.

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          Since there’s one open source that’s more strict and one that’s more permissive, for the more strict one, we should indicate that it’s like the value of a variable: it has a specific meaning that doesn’t change. With that understanding, Rogue Legacy is open source, but Trisquel is “open source”.

          (I was going to go with Tux Kart instead of Trisquel for that joke, but my heart couldn’t handle throwing shade at Tux Kart.)

          Edit: I’d just like to interject for a moment. What I’m referring to as Tux Kart, is in fact, SuperTuxKart, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Super+TuxKart

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            Lets not do open washing here. Its not open source, as that would require it having an open source compatible license, which it does not have, see the open source definition:

            https://opensource.org/osd

            1. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.
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        You can redistribute modified code / binaries, just no commercial use.

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          I deleted my comment because I didn’t really care to get into it with the weird custom license, but widely speaking if it’s not distributable without condition, it’s not open source.

          EDIT- And it’s okay that it’s “only” source-available, it’s a creator’s choice how their works are used in the world. But I would argue this project license doesn’t fit the spirit of this lemmy community.

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            if it’s not distributable without condition, it’s not open source

            MIT and GPL are not open source then, since they impose conditions. Open source by your definition would be some like WTFPL or Unlicense

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              Without explicit license? Without contacting the administrator for permission? This is what I mean by conditions. There’s no need to be pedantic, if the software isn’t available for commercial use how can it be open source? I cannot modify this and redistribute or package it without getting in touch with a project representative.