That’s pretty much the main thing, through they keep trying to slip shit it like the recall function, ads in new places. They also had some real trouble with the new internal CPU management, not sure where that is these days.
Honestly I’m tired of Microsoft pulling this shit. Personally I can take a bad OS launch or needing a little more maintaince on my PC, but I don’t want to fight them anymore for control of my own hardware.
Windows 11 is little more than a reskin of windows 10, and they still fucked it up.
Rounded corners are mandatory (Why? I really preferred squared ones). But developers can choose to have their windows square. Why only the developers? Let the user decide how a windows looks like!
And don’t get me started on the start menu. It was a complete massacre. Tiles are gone (am I the only one that liked them?). Instead, now we pin apps to the start menu. Fine I guess, except for the fact that half of the fucking menu is taken up by fucking recomendations. If I remove every single recommendation, instead of having my space back for more pinned programs I get this message: “oh you like this precious white space? If you turned on some recommendations it would show something”. No, i don’t want recommendations, I want my start menu space back. Which btw in windows 10 used to be resizable to whatever size I wanted.
Oh and lets not forget about the volume mixer. Which some genius decided that it was better to keep it 10 clicks away from the user in the settings, instead of conveniently at one click in the taskbar. Which they also made the sound settings their own special taskbar element, instead of another taskbar program. So now if I want to replace their shitty sound settings with the ones I like (trumpet btw), now I would have 2 sound settings in the taskbar, while in win10 I only had 1.
And whose Idea was to join the sound settings and internet settings in the same taskbar button visually? Which is also not the same button functionally. You see, if you press the left side of the button it opens the sound settings, but the right side opens the internet settings. How much do Microsoft UI people get paid?
I have to use it for software testing and I fucking hate the UI with everything crammed into the center of the taskbar. Beyond that it’s running in a virtual desktop and I don’t go beyond launching apps in it so I really can’t say. My work laptop is supposed to be upgraded next week, im sure ill find plenty to bitch about then.
The company I work for disabled the taskbar settings when they put out Win 10. I’m Assuming they will do it on Win11 too so I may not have that option but thanks for the info anyway I’ll certainly try it.
Have a Windows for gaming, going to switch to Linux once I can get a good deal on an external hard drive to back it up. Can confirm I’m making the switch because of the enshittification.
Windows ME was a crapshoot. One of our computers blue screened a few times during the couple months we had it installed; the other couldn’t even run an hour without hard crashing.
Nowadays I can’t even remember the last time Windows crashed. Newer versions are definitely a lot more stable, though suck in different ways.
The one machine I had that ran Millennium Edition was a Sony laptop that came out right after it launched. Since it was the oem install, ig it survived for some time. My dad used it for Oracle DB work before I got it and used as a computer that could access the internet. I’ve only had one bsod with it. But realplayer deleted all my VXD files.
8 changed a lot of UI for no reason other than to chase the mobile market. 8.1 reverted a lot of that and people liked it, but the damage to 8’s reputation had already been done.
If they kept the edition alive for a few years 8.1 might be remembered as a redemption story like Windows 98 Second Edition, but they rushed 10 out the door - as a free upgrade, no less - to get back the goodwill they’d lost.
Yeah no, Windows 11 IS far worse than (current) Windows 10
I’ve been using Windows 11 for some time. Besides it’s terrible AI features being shoved down our throats, what’s different about it from Win10?
I don’t see too much of a difference between the two versions. The AI enshittification is relatively recent.
That’s pretty much the main thing, through they keep trying to slip shit it like the recall function, ads in new places. They also had some real trouble with the new internal CPU management, not sure where that is these days.
Honestly I’m tired of Microsoft pulling this shit. Personally I can take a bad OS launch or needing a little more maintaince on my PC, but I don’t want to fight them anymore for control of my own hardware.
Privacy, I wager.
Windows 11 is little more than a reskin of windows 10, and they still fucked it up.
Rounded corners are mandatory (Why? I really preferred squared ones). But developers can choose to have their windows square. Why only the developers? Let the user decide how a windows looks like!
And don’t get me started on the start menu. It was a complete massacre. Tiles are gone (am I the only one that liked them?). Instead, now we pin apps to the start menu. Fine I guess, except for the fact that half of the fucking menu is taken up by fucking recomendations. If I remove every single recommendation, instead of having my space back for more pinned programs I get this message: “oh you like this precious white space? If you turned on some recommendations it would show something”. No, i don’t want recommendations, I want my start menu space back. Which btw in windows 10 used to be resizable to whatever size I wanted.
Oh and lets not forget about the volume mixer. Which some genius decided that it was better to keep it 10 clicks away from the user in the settings, instead of conveniently at one click in the taskbar. Which they also made the sound settings their own special taskbar element, instead of another taskbar program. So now if I want to replace their shitty sound settings with the ones I like (trumpet btw), now I would have 2 sound settings in the taskbar, while in win10 I only had 1.
And whose Idea was to join the sound settings and internet settings in the same taskbar button visually? Which is also not the same button functionally. You see, if you press the left side of the button it opens the sound settings, but the right side opens the internet settings. How much do Microsoft UI people get paid?
I guess we got dark notepad, that’s nice.
oh God the volume mixer!
My volume mixer is in the task bar in win 11…
Get ear trumpet for your volume mixer, for my needs at least it is better than the stock one anyhow
taskbar sucks balls
I have to use it for software testing and I fucking hate the UI with everything crammed into the center of the taskbar. Beyond that it’s running in a virtual desktop and I don’t go beyond launching apps in it so I really can’t say. My work laptop is supposed to be upgraded next week, im sure ill find plenty to bitch about then.
you can change that. you can set the task bar to be similar to the previous versions.
i have it with the windows button to the left, no search bar, no pinned apps no meteo.
i prefer kde but it’s bearable.
The company I work for disabled the taskbar settings when they put out Win 10. I’m Assuming they will do it on Win11 too so I may not have that option but thanks for the info anyway I’ll certainly try it.
100%. The enshittification is accelerating. Which is leading people to Linux hopefully
Any moment now
Yeah, their momentum is no joke. This may accelerate the shift towards Linux somewhat.
Kind of the same story for the Fediverse.
I’m expecting that Steam on Linux is going to be what drives it.
The Steam Deck can be used as a Linux computer and almost a turnkey way for a manufacturer to build a Steam computer without Windows.
Have a Windows for gaming, going to switch to Linux once I can get a good deal on an external hard drive to back it up. Can confirm I’m making the switch because of the enshittification.
I’m in the same situation but also use windows for Ableton and protocols. My steamdeck has really convinced me that Linux is ready for gaming tho
Yeah no, Windows 11 IS far worse than Windows 10
Yeah no, Windows 10 IS far worse than Windows 8
Yeah no, Windows 8 IS far worse than Windows 7
Perpetual Windows $VERSION_THAT_I_GREW_UP_WITH isn’t bad. No, it’s just this new one that’s terrible.
No, they’ve alternated between good and bad ever since 98.
98 - good
ME - bad
XP - good
Vista - bad
7 - good
8 - bad
10 - good (eventually)
11 - bad
ME wasn’t that bad. I think I just got lucky in terms of stability?
It just was not much different to 98 and had less good UI
Windows ME was a crapshoot. One of our computers blue screened a few times during the couple months we had it installed; the other couldn’t even run an hour without hard crashing.
Nowadays I can’t even remember the last time Windows crashed. Newer versions are definitely a lot more stable, though suck in different ways.
The one machine I had that ran Millennium Edition was a Sony laptop that came out right after it launched. Since it was the oem install, ig it survived for some time. My dad used it for Oracle DB work before I got it and used as a computer that could access the internet. I’ve only had one bsod with it. But realplayer deleted all my VXD files.
98 was ok, ME sucked, XP was ok, Vista sucked, 7 was ok, 8 sucked, 10 is ok, 11 sucks.
98SE was very good for me. Also NT 2000. After XP I stopped really bothering except for work occasionally. 11 sucks donkey’s ass.
yeah, 98 was trash. 98SE was good
Nobody said 8 was better than 10.
I am.
Blasphemy!
8 changed a lot of UI for no reason other than to chase the mobile market. 8.1 reverted a lot of that and people liked it, but the damage to 8’s reputation had already been done.
If they kept the edition alive for a few years 8.1 might be remembered as a redemption story like Windows 98 Second Edition, but they rushed 10 out the door - as a free upgrade, no less - to get back the goodwill they’d lost.
I thought 10 was an improvement on 8, in part because they walked back some changes to 8.
I have yet to hear of a reason to go to 11.
The version that i grew up with was terrible
I don’t remember anyone saying 10 was worse than 8. Maybe buggier on launch, but stylistically it worked more like 7 than 8 did
I grew up with XP, vista was worse and windows 7 was ust better. Windows 8 was terrible. Windows 10 better than 8 but worse than 7.
I haven’t even try windows 11.