Has anyone actually found the NSP/XCI somewhere?

I’ve found an update file but the base game doesn’t seem to be anywhere I have access to.

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      But surely you don’t need to constantly access all your games on every trip, right?

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        Yes, I absolutely want to be able to play any game I own on that platform at any time. That’s the entire reason I bought the game. Being restricted to the library on one platform is already a massive concession.

        “You can only play this game if you preemptively lug it around with you in case you want to play it today” is not an acceptable condition of a purchase to me.

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          Did ygu mod your switch to have several TB of data? What if you don’t have Wifi?

          “You can only play this game if you preemptively lug it around with you in case you want to play it today” is not an acceptable condition of a purchase to me.

          Well, I don’t really believe that you don’t have any games that you haven’t touched for a year on your switch account. But even if you’re right: You’re an extreme edge case.

          I highly prefer being able to access my games until the hardware gives out. Not until Nintendo shuts down the services. That is unacceptable IMHO.

          Edit: Oh. And also not being able to resell or lend out my property is also bad. It isn’t even property, but rather a license that you buy when you buy digital games.

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            Most games aren’t that big. Especially switch games. Yes, I have a large micro SD to hold them all. I didn’t say I’m not an edge case; I made it clear that silly collector shit is half the reason Nintendo has a market.

            I have plenty of games I haven’t played recently. That doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is that if I want to play it tomorrow, I can play it without hassle wherever I am. Anything short of that is not owning the game.

            I’ll have access long after the hardware gives out, with no need for the obnoxious process of ripping hundreds of cartridges. Digital is forever; DRM isn’t.

            I have no interest in selling a game or hardware. I never have and never will. You choose between getting half of what they’ll sell it for or spending a bunch of time and trusting some random stranger not to screw you. Both options are worse than just keeping your stuff.

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              that silly collector shit is half the reason Nintendo has a market.

              No you didn’t and it isn’t. Nintendo has a unique design philosophy which keept them around since the NES. Do you consider the desire to own physical media “silly collector shit”?

              Anything short of that is not owning the game.

              That might be “true” for you, but I vehemently disagree. Most people have no problem keeping their copye of BotW on the shelf, while taking Luigi’s Mansion with them because that’s what they’re currently playing. People have selectively been taking their stuff with them for milennia.

              with no need for the obnoxious process of ripping hundreds of cartridges

              You don’t need to rip cartridges to play them. After the hardware gives out: I’m relying on the piracy community here.

              Digital is forever

              Lol, tell that to the 3ds/WiiU marketplace.

              I have no interest in selling a game or hardware. I never have and never will. You choose between getting half of what they’ll sell it for or spending a bunch of time and trusting some random stranger not to screw you. Both options are worse than just keeping your stuff.

              You have a very unrealistic and pessimistic view of the used market. I’ve both sold games I’m not interested in anymore and bought perfectly playable games used. It’s quite a cheap way to get access to the games you want, especially with Nintendo’s sales policy. I’m guessing that the person buying hello pikachu from me had a great time playing. Never had a problem on ebay. It wouldn’t be still around if most transactions weren’t kosher.

              Also: Libraries have game cartridges.

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                Yes, I did. It was the first post. They couldn’t run a profitable gaming division without collectors. They wouldn’t go broke because they have ridiculous cash reserves, but they would have bailed on gaming at some point because collectors are a big chunk of their sales.

                People did it because they didn’t have a choice. That doesn’t mean they were OK with it, or that anyone would have chosen not to have everything instantly available given the choice. That choice exists now.

                You don’t need to rip cartridges to play them. After the hardware gives out: I’m relying on the piracy community here.

                I’d need to rip them to play them now. Carrying around cartridges isn’t acceptable. I have no issue relying on data preservation communities to preserve access to my data.

                Half those cartridges have junk builds that won’t work without external updates by the way. You need the internet to get to the actual functional version regardless.

                3DS or Wii can get digital games just fine.

                I have no interest in the used market. Even if I could get 90% back on every game every time to abandon access to a game, the fact that it would require carrying physical games would make the value proposition completely unacceptable to me.

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                  They couldn’t run a profitable gaming division without collectors.

                  Bullshit. The switch isn’t the best-selling console since forever because of collectors. Nintendo went out on a limb and innovated on both hard- and software and it payed off big time.

                  You know the last time Nintendo had to rely on collectors? It was in the time of the WiiU (when they introduced Amiibos).

                  because collectors are a big chunk of their sales.

                  Any source on that, or just hunches.

                  People did it because they didn’t have a choice. That doesn’t mean they were OK with it, or that anyone would have chosen not to have everything instantly available given the choice.

                  Considered that physical media hasn’t die out yet and people still enjoy their books and whatnot: I think that you’re talking out of your ass.

                  Carrying around cartridges isn’t acceptable.

                  It is to enough people. Stop making broad statements that only apply to your edge case. You come off as an arrogant prick.

                  Half those cartridges have junk builds that won’t work without external updates by the way. You need the internet to get to the actual functional version regardless.

                  Nintendo games usually have a high polish at release. This isn’t Call of Duty.

                  3DS or Wii can get digital games just fine.

                  Not anymore, they can’t. The servers went down.

                  I have no interest in the used market.

                  That’s fine but no reason to slander the used market so much. It’s a, great option for gamers on a budget.

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                    They didn’t meaningfully innovate on software. They “innovated” on hardware by using a tablet and giving it a dock to make older games viable on handheld that weren’t before. Which is fine; it demonstrated the market for handhelds playing real games even with the worst controller the world has ever seen, and kickstarted the steam deck and a bunch of PC copycats. But collectors are their core market. If they do a switch 2 that doesn’t do physical games, it will fail.

                    Physical media has mostly died out. Streaming has almost entirely replaced music, TV, and movies. Ereaders are still growing, but they’re also a huge market, and libraries support multiple ebook borrowing apps with different libraries because ebooks are so much of their job now.

                    Nintendo makes a handful of games a year. Most switch games aren’t from Nintendo. Most switch games don’t work well without updates. And if you want to talk about how popular the switch specifically is instead of the fact that their core audience is physical collectors, all of the switch’s popularity is because it could play third party games.

                    You don’t need Nintendo servers to get digital games.

                    The used market has massive compromises that you’re just ignoring. It doesn’t matter if it’s “only” 1% chance of a bad transaction. Bad transactions happen, and it’s a risk that nullifies much of the benefit if you experience it.

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        I always imagine people who die on this hill just admiring the title screen of every game in their library for 5 seconds and calling it a gaming session lol.