An got the rail workers a 14% immediate pay raise, an additional 25% over 5 years, a PTO day, and in the followup as he promised, an additional 4 sicks days and 3 convertible.
He subverted the will of the union using the might of the government. It doesnt matter what happened after that, as a union man that is the definition of anti worker.
Context for a joke? Do you expect context in a Colbert monologue? I’m not sure if that makes it funnier. My point is factually correct. Its a joke, not a new york times article.
I was genuinely curious about your view point. If you lack the convictions to defend your characterization of my statement, and me personally by proxy, then maybe you shouldn’t be calling me a liar with such authority.
after threatening them with their livelihoods and retirement yes, he gave them a small amount of what they were demanding
not a victory and he is not a champion of worker’s rights
Presidential Emergency Board
In July 2022, a Presidential Emergency Board was convened under the Railway Labor Act by President Joe Biden.[11] His Executive order stated, “I have been notified by the National Mediation Board that in its judgment these disputes threaten substantially to interrupt interstate commerce to a degree that would deprive a section of the country of essential transportation service.”[12]
The board issued a report on August 16, starting a 30-day cooling off period that prevents any strikes or lockouts.[6] Reuters reported that the board proposed “annual wage increases of between 4% and 7% through 2024” in addition to retroactive pay increases, one extra paid day off and five $1,000 annual bonuses.[13]
By the end of August, three unions representing about 15,000 workers agreed to the recommendations made by the board.[14][15]
On September 14, near the end of the cooling off period, Secretary of Labor Marty Walsh hosted negotiations at the Department of Labor between the railroad companies, and unions in an attempt to prevent a strike.[16] The Washington Post reported that Biden was “personally involved in the talks”, wanting workers to have more flexibility in scheduling.[2]
Early on September 15, Biden announced a deal had been reached to prevent a strike, including an immediate 14% wage increase, but only one day of paid leave per year rather than the 15 days of paid sick leave unions wanted.[2][17] The deal still needed to be ratified by rank-and-file members of the unions, however no strike could take place for several weeks regardless of the outcomes of ratification votes.[2]
Congressional intervention
In September 2022, U.S. Senators Richard Burr and Roger Wicker introduced a bill that would have required labor unions to agree to the terms proposed by the Presidential Emergency Board, to prevent a strike.[18] It was blocked by Senator Bernie Sanders, who noted that freight rail workers receive a “grand total of zero sick days” while railroad companies made significant profits.[19] In the House of Representatives, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said, “We’d rather see negotiations prevail so there’s no need for any actions from Congress.”[16]
In late November, after some unions had rejected the agreement, Biden asked Congress to pass the agreement into law. On November 30, the House of Representatives passed the existing tentative agreement along with an amended version that would require railroad employers to ensure 7 days paid sick leave.[20] On December 1, the Senate passed the tentative agreement with only 1 day of sick leave.[21] President Joe Biden signed the legislation into law on December 2.[4] The Biden administration’s intervention in the dispute was condemned by over 500 labor historians in an open letter to Joe Biden and Secretary of Labor Marty Walsh.[22]
I corrected the misinformation by exclusion suggested by the statement.
Edit: And for the record, the followup was in February 2023. Which was after the part you posted from the Wikipedia entry, which kind of matches the whole… Misinformation by exclusion part I’ve been commenting on.
An got the rail workers a 14% immediate pay raise, an additional 25% over 5 years, a PTO day, and in the followup as he promised, an additional 4 sicks days and 3 convertible.
He subverted the will of the union using the might of the government. It doesnt matter what happened after that, as a union man that is the definition of anti worker.
I agree, but leaving it out is still lying about what actually happened.
It’s not lying at all, omission is only a lie if it’s misleading or nefarious, this is neither.
You can certainly make that call for yourself. I disagree.
I mean it’s a fact… You didn’t add context you added an excuse. “Oh it’s not as bad because x”
Cool story.
And can’t defend your actions either. -10 for childish bullshit.
How so? He broke a strike. I said he broke a strike. It can’t much more factual then that.
Context is important.
Context for a joke? Do you expect context in a Colbert monologue? I’m not sure if that makes it funnier. My point is factually correct. Its a joke, not a new york times article.
OK.
I was genuinely curious about your view point. If you lack the convictions to defend your characterization of my statement, and me personally by proxy, then maybe you shouldn’t be calling me a liar with such authority.
You could read the many, many other comments in the same thread.
You directly called me a liar and I directly asked why. This is weasle behavior. Do better.
I have explained it numerous times already, why repeat myself?
after threatening them with their livelihoods and retirement yes, he gave them a small amount of what they were demanding
not a victory and he is not a champion of worker’s rights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_railroad_labor_dispute
I didn’t call him a champion of workers rights.
I corrected the misinformation by exclusion suggested by the statement.
Edit: And for the record, the followup was in February 2023. Which was after the part you posted from the Wikipedia entry, which kind of matches the whole… Misinformation by exclusion part I’ve been commenting on.
Please don’t do that.
And set the power of unions back decades by breaking the strike too!
A PTO day lmao. And you wonder why people are pissed he broke up the strike.
I’m not remotely surprised, and I didn’t support him pushing to stop the strike either.
That doesn’t mean I think its OK to leave out what he did do to exagerrate a position.
He still broke the strike subverting the will of the workers. That is a slap in the face and undercuts the pto day they get a year.
He did.
As well as get a pay raise, a guarantee of additional raises, PTO, additional sick days, and convertible days.
Pretending nothing was done undercuts the issue, and spreads misinformation about what actually happened.
Do you know why they were striking? Low staffing levels leading to long hours, overworked staff, and building safety concerns as a result.
What part of my comment makes it appear as if I wasn’t aware?
25% over 5 years works out to 4.5% a year, and he “won” that during 8% inflation.
In reality they’re getting a pay cut.