Big Surprise, faux populist backed by real estate moguls

  • PilferJynx@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This is no surprise. PP is just a fascist version of Trudeau. Nothing will change except laws targeting the lgbtq community and relaxing environmental regulations.

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        1 year ago

        Yes.

        Canada is not a two-party system, although for some reason many can’t seem to look beyond the Lib/Con juggernaut.

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          1 year ago

          This is what I’m referring to. In effect it’s a 2 party system, which is frustrating.

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            1 year ago

            It’s only that way because too many won’t vote for an alternative.

            Take the plunge! Vote NDP or Green!

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            1 year ago

            it’s a 2 party system

            It’s not, though. FPTP is not a party-based electoral system.

            Which, to be fair, is the basis of its criticism, as people want to vote for parties instead of individuals. There are party-based electoral systems, some of which have been suggested as being suitable for use in Canada. But until we get around to actually changing the electoral system we don’t have a party system. All we have is individual representatives.

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              FPTP strongly weights towards a two-party system (where party means individual or group of individuals). The only real voting choices are to vote for a candidate or to vote against a candidate. Any other choice is wildly ineffective.

              There are many other systems that are better representations of the will of the people, both at the political party level and at the candidate level, but the caveat is that the two main parties will almost never be able to exercise the amount of power they currently have again. This may appear to be a good thing to the citizenry, but not to the two main parties.

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                1 year ago

                FPTP strongly weights towards a two-party system

                No. It makes absolutely no consideration for parties. It is not a party system. Period.

                There are party systems. Many believe we would be better off with a party system. But FPTP is not one of them. It is a single representative system.

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                    1 year ago

                    Of course not. Brackets signify that the words contained within may be an interesting aside, but unrelated to the topic at hand. I’m quite sure it was an interesting aside, but the topic at hand is interesting enough for me right now. I can always come back to read that aside in a few months if I am looking for a new topic.

                    We can quote other segments not left as asides if you want, though.

                    The only real voting choices are to vote for a candidate or to vote against a candidate.

                    Under FPTP the only voting choices are to vote for a candidate or to decline to vote. There is no option to vote against a candidate. Maybe there is some electoral system out there that provides that, but FPTP is not it.

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          1 year ago

          But it is basically a 2 party system if only libs and cons ever win. It’s a circlejerk.

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          Canada is a two-party system, we just happen to have more than two parties in that system.

          Edit: downvotes? Really? 2016 and the broken Electoral Reform promise was not that long ago do we have to explain proportional and ranked voting systems and the flaws of first-past-the-post again?

      • zephyreks@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        The NDP has about as good policy as you’re going to get in Canada if you care at all about the working class.