People often talk about swapping out plastic straws for other materials to help the ocean/fish and the environment, but they also complain about paper straws falling apart easily. Other alternatives that are slightly more sturdy like straws made of straw don’t seem very common.

But do we even need straws? My first reaction was that any liquid can be drunk directly from the vessel it’s in, and straws just add another level of convenience. If we don’t want to use plastic straws and the alternatives mostly suck (actually all straws suck 🤓), why not just ditch straws entirely?

  • Kalash@feddit.ch
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    I mean, the safest way to swallow a bee or spider would probably be after it drowned. So that just makes no sense at all.

    • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      Hmm, insects don’t really down the same way mammals do. A layer of air gets trapped against their thorax, some spiders use this to hunt under water IIRC.

      Other commenters have replied with accounts of this happening.

      • Kalash@feddit.ch
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        They are arachnids not insects, but fair point.

        Diving-bell spiders are very specialised and rare spiders, the vast majority doesn’t have that ability.

        I mean you shouldn’t swallow them, but I don’t think straws are needed to prevent that.

        • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          The majority of arachnids don’t hunt under water, but they also don’t drown easily. I’ve seen huntsman spiders float on water like it’s no big deal.

          • Kalash@feddit.ch
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Oh yes, a few of them can walk on water, fishing spiders even catch small fish through the surface. But that requires careful manipulation of surface tension. But it seems rather unlikey a spider would fall or slip into a drink and land perfecly on the surface. Once they break through the surface tension it works against them and even fishing spiders can struggle to get out again. Most spiders will drown within a few minutes once submerged when there is nothing to climb out on. The straw might actually safe them in that case!

            I’d still say it’s a rather minor risk and just checking your drink before taking a sip is probably simpler then using a straw. I ususally just put a coaster on my glass when outside during the summer.