Do I use a website to download songs off of YouTube or Spotify?

Where should I store the music? I haven’t any clue about self-hosting. I’m running GrapheneOS, is it enough to save the songs in Files and play in an app like Auxio? Maybe sync with SyncThing?

What’s the best way to compress mp3 files but still retain the quality (even possible)?

Could really use some help as I’m very inexperienced. :)

  • Algernon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    I’m always curious why people do this. Music is the one item where it’s easier to just sub to something like Apple Music… literally $110/yr for all the music that exists. They gave us the solution we asked for and it’s super-cheap.

    I pirate the shit out of movies and tv since those guys are gouging me, but musicians barely get by in the streaming era.

    Hopefully this triggers nobody. I’m making no judgements.

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      3 months ago

      I’ve used Spotify for like 20 years now, and I’m finally going back to pirating.

      They started “innovating” and adding shit I didn’t want last year to justify fee increases.

      I can’t trust businesses to not enshittify, so might as well continue on with where I left my library all those years ago.

      Plus: So much music isn’t available on there. I have a huge collection of Japanese Rock, Pop, Visual Kei from the 90s and 00s that you just can’t find easily.

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      3 months ago

      my two cents,

      I personally buy some music from Bandcamp, and I’m pretty sure those songs don’t exist on the Apple Music catalog. So I don’t want to handle multiple apps to listen what I want.

      Also, streaming platforms have the internet constraints. Sometimes, like when I’m driving, I don’t have a stable internet connection

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      3 months ago

      My good faith response to your good faith question: because having a DRM-free copy on your own server or hard drive is the only way to be sure you will be able to play it tomorrow.

      Streaming services are a complex collection of licensing deals that are by design temporary. You may not hear beforehand when your favorite artist’s label’s parent company’s conglomerate’s CEO decides to pull their content because they’re going to start their own streaming service, or another service gave them a lucrative exclusive deal.

      And while you’re never going to have a hard time finding Taylor Swift, that one 70s esoteric album may become instantly impossible to find once it drops off a streamer.

      In the end there are no promises with a streaming service. On the other hand, you put in a small amount of work to grab MP3s or FLACs, set up your own Plex server (or Emby, etc), and you’re good for pretty much forever.

      Similarly, support artists by buying their direct merch, going to shows, and so on, but they are barely seeing any Spotify money. Between Spotify and the labels, they are cleaning the plate and artists are getting whatever crumbs fall off the table (unless you’re Taylor Swift or another global artist).

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        3 months ago

        If the streaming service I use (Apple Music) doesn’t have something, I buy it and add it. Spotify goes out of their way to make that difficult, so I don’t use Spotify. I actually think Spotify is terrible in every way.

        I’m not worried about owning all the music since streaming is not going to disappear in my lifetime. If it did, I’d drop the cash on bands that need my money and pirate the ones who don’t.

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      3 months ago

      Many artists I like were signed with a now defunct record label called Tympanik Audio. Whoever got the rights to the name after the label went under stopped paying their Spotify license fees, and a large chunk of my Spotify library vanished overnight. While the albums still exist on Bandcamp, the money probably gets thrown into the void now.

      Never again. The only way I can ensure my music is accessible tomorrow is to have my own copy. I buy on Bandcamp where I can, or will buy physical and rip it if I really like the album. Everything else gets ripped from Deezer automatically because there’s no guarantee anything on those platforms will always be there.

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      3 months ago

      it’s easier to just sub to something like Apple Music… literally $110/yr for all the music that exists.

      As others have stated, not all music exists on every streaming platform. That alone is enough of a reason for me. I recently canceled my longtime Spotify subscription because the price kept increasing while my library kept decreasing. I actually don’t pirate music when I can help it because I’d rather support artists on Bandcamp or purchasing physical media directly. If I can’t do that then I head to Soulseek!

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        3 months ago

        Spotify is terrible, but you seem to be saying that since none of these have every single album, you’ve chosen to pirate it all? Not sure if that was the reason.

        I shouldn’t have said “all the music that exists,” more like “an overwhelming majority of existing music.”

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          3 months ago

          As stated, my reason is that I was paying Spotify more money for less music and I was unhappy with that. You pointed out yourself that musicians barely get by in the streaming era so I would rather support them on Bandcamp (I know it has it’s own issues) or buying physical media whenever possible rather than pirating. Streaming platforms may make music you want to listen to seemingly affordable and accessible but that’s not the case for everyone. This is my personal experience.

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      3 months ago

      I’ve been using a hacked Spotify app for years. It takes 5 minutes to set up and I don’t have to pay any money to a soulless corporation who will throw a few half pennies to the artists that I enjoy. Oh, and I get to disable the shit ui choices that they try to implement so I get a better experience than a paying customer.